when you say “disable federation” do you mean preventing our content (threads/comments/posts/etc by us as an individual) from being shared/seen on other instances? or do you mean that it prevents us from seeing federated content? or both?
You only see local only. Unless the instance de-federates your content can be seen on other instances.
Thanks for the heads up. I definitely want to opt out. I hope this place has some staying power, but I don’t want an interconnectedness to flood the home feed with too much ragebait and garbage content anywhere near what reddit turned into.
Your home feed can default to “All,” which shows content from all communities across all federated instances (not just Kbin and Lemmy) or it can default to Subscribed, which shows content only from communities you’re subscribed to. Lemmy has a third option called “Local” which shows content from all local communities. Turning off federation for yourself in Kbin is similar to the local option in Lemmy, but allows you to still switch between All and Subscribed (ie, all local or subscribed local). Lemmy doesn’t currently offer a “local subscribed” view.
The hamburger menu next to your name allows you to toggle between Subscribed and All. In the dropdown menu when you hover over your name, under Settings, you can select your default view (Subscribed vs All).
My personal preference is to default to subscribed and see content from across the Fediverse that I choose to see. This way I’m not missing out on any communities or magazines on federated instances that interest me. I sometimes switch to All with the Commented sort to see what the current zeitgeist is (where are the biggest conversations happening). I don’t see much need to de-federate my view entirely since I can block communities/magazines, or entire domains, which means even under All I’m not bothered by content that I find annoying, offensive, etc.
In the dropdown menu when you hover over your name, under Settings, you can select your default view (Subscribed vs All).
Does that work for you? Mine is set to Subscribed but my home screen still defaults to All. From another thread, it sounds like at least one other person is having the same issue.
I had the same issue, I had to once set it back, save, then set it again to subscribed, save and then it worked.
For what it’s worth - on the microblogging (twitter-like) part of the fediverse, we’ve had pretty great results federating with lots of instances, but defederating from the ones that have problems with hate speech, spam, etc. It’s led to a much more positive vibe than Twitter etc because people aren’t so afraid of some random person misconstruing something they said and jumping down their throat about it, and there’s no algorithm pushing rage “engagement” to the top.
One of the problems we do have in microblogging land, is the main mastodon developer has tried to direct new users to his own instance, making it by far the biggest mastodon instance, and then did a bad job controlling spam - so the other instances were left having to chose between cutting off a huge number of real users, or being inundated with spam. Having all the kbin and lemmy instances federate with each other, except where there are issues, can make the network overall more resilient against any one instance being mismanaged or invaded by spammers and trolls. The users on that instance will have to move, but there will be plenty of similar-sized instances ready to welcome them, and if the magazines are also spread out, they can keep posting to the same ones.
(I admit I also have a selfish interest here - I’m posting this from fedia,io, a different kbin instance. I joined through a different instance than the main one to help nudge things toward decentralization.)
Right now moderator, subscriber, etc. data for stuff from different platforms and instances is broken on kbin, usually just displaying ernest as the owner of anything from a different instance.
So… I take it that the sleep thing didn’t happen? Been there - should be sleeping, too “in the zone” to sleep.
It’s that thing that you eventually have to give in to, lest you turn into a gibbering wreck, unable to do something as simple as make a cup of coffee, without doing something stupid like putting the kettle in the fridge and wondering why the bottle of milk doesn’t have a switch on it to boil it…
2 questions for whomever has the answers
- Are all communities shared in the entire federation multiverse thingy…For example … if a community was created on Kbin does that mean it’s prevented from being created on any other site so only one exists?
- Can I subscribe to a community that’s not hosted on Kbin and still see it and participate in it from Kbin
Gracias fellow kbinians ✨
- no, each server (kbin.social, fedia.io, lemmy.world, etc.) can have their own communities, since there is no centralized server that manages community names it would be impossible to track which servers already have a community with the same name
- yes, that’s the beauty of the fediverse! this post explains how you can do that. you can also view and interact with posts from other federated social media sites such as Mastodon if you are interested in that sort of thing
It wouldn’t be impossible to track. Decentralized databases are a thing. Honestly blockchain would be useful here. Never thought I’d say that.
The big issue would be to get everyone to sign up for something like that though. Since things have been running for a while without any sort of checks like that, it would be difficult to switch to that system now (do you merge communities with conflicting names, do you let them change their name, do you let them delete the community, etc.). Plus there’s the whole nature of the fediverse where every instance can be customized to the creator’s needs (so one instance might want to be on that database and others might) and it just becomes too much work to get everyone on board.
Maybe I’m wrong and someone will eventually implement something like this and people will want to use it, but I very much doubt it from what I’ve seen of the fediverse so far
Hi, I’m figuring this out too. Veterans, please feel free to correct me!
- If you create a community on kbin, it does not prevent a community with the same name from being created on another site. We have a ‘music’ community here (kbin.social/m/music), but lemmy.world has a ‘music’ community too (lemmy.world/c/music).
(kbin calls them /m/agazines, lemmy calls 'em /c/ommunities, if you’re wondering about the ‘m’ vs ‘c’ in the URLs lol.)
- Yes! Because Fediverse magic, you can actually interact with the lemmy.world ‘music’ community without leaving kbin.social. Try it out from kbin.social/m/music@lemmy.world.
You may notice this @[object]@[place] pattern a fair bit.
For example, our own ‘music’ community is @music@kbin.social. The lemmy.world ‘music’ community is @music@lemmy.world. Your account is @Spider-Man@kbin.social. See if you can spot users or threads that are from other sites! They’re probably already in front of you!
As a second experiment, see if you can visit the music community from beehaw.org, without leaving kbin.social. They have one too, but you don’t need a beehaw.org account to participate there!
Yes, this is correct.
As opposed to the thinking of a lot of people, being able to have duplicate communities on each instance is a feature, not a bug. It is a very good way to give people freedom of choice if, for instance, a mod for a community on one instance is taking the community in a bad direction.