On every thread or post, if you click on more and activity, you’ll get the info.
I personally find this to be a good things, I’ve seen people using downvote way too easily. I like the idea that we need to be somehow accountable for those mechanism.
edit: It could be somehow improved to have an option to let this info only available between concerned users.
edit edit: I think that up/downvote info shouldn’t be public, but kept private between the users involved. we need to address this privacy issue.
I understand what you’re saying, but in the broader scheme of the internet we should have the ability to dictate what of our data and actions get broadcast and therefore able to be mined by advertisers or other nefarious entities. This is actually a hugely important idea in fighting the corporatization of the internet. We need to stop letting mega corps build profiles on us based on our clicks.
I totally agree, but I find it refreshing to make people accountable. Maybe there is a solution to keep it somehow private between users?
I still don’t really understand what your dissatisfied with. You said something about people downvoting too much? Say you see someone who is downvoting in a way you don’t like. What is your recourse? Why do you want that information?
If I see someone downvoting all my thread or post, I’ll block them. Anonymity is not always bringing the best out of people.
You have a pretty ironclad point. A company having access to years of that from any user would be a huge boon. Which is upsetting, because I viewed it as a helpful development in terms of group dynamics. Not for blacklisting purposes, which they also run the risk of turning into, but because, knowing your name is up there, you’re more likely to mull over whether something is really actually bad enough to deserve the downvote and throwing them around willy-nilly is a great habit to break yourself of.
If you can’t downvote something without being called out by name, you’re stuck admitting it really didn’t matter all that much, or hopefully explaining why you dislike something in words. Which does not happen nearly as often as it should. Forcing people to own up to them could curb the tendency to downvote things into oblivion
Thinking it over, I’m forced to admit the cons outweigh it, but I don’t have to like it.
A company having access to years of that from any user would be a huge boon.
This could be said for any bit of information you post publicly. You don’t think they can learn the same info from your posts? I agree it is a problem but I don’t think private up/down votes address it.
Im doing (“did”) a lot more of up/downvoting than writing longer replys to different topics.
It should be much easier for a company to scan a wide array of users on their voting behaviour than reading their posts one by one.
I need to remember this. I don’t want to upvote NSFW content and have all my kinks publically attached to this username.
my god, the most exhausting people online are gonna love this
can’t wait to get harassed cause I won’t dEbAtE why I clicked the “your post is garbage” button and cite sources that aren’t my eyes or rising bile
Hard disagree on the idea that upvote/downvote history being displayed constantly is a good thing - it seems like it’s just inviting harassment. Should be opt-out at a minimum, and preferably opt-in.
In a small community it’s probably fine; but it will get super toxic with big communities or abusive mods.
This is where I see there being an issue as well.
There’s also potential for harassment due to people seeing opposing political opinions. As an example - My wife was once the target of harassment by a number of users on Reddit for days for warning people about an anti-abortion protest that was displaying graphic imagery. Much easier for those kind of people to coordinate harassment of others if they can easily see records of upvoting pro-choice or downvoting anti-choice posts/comments.
Some people don’t understand the implications of making the votes public.
Any tool like “Kbin enhancement suite” will quickly scan for who downvoted you and will allow you to track the person who disrespected you by downvoting you. It won’t be “micro-harassement”, it will be wide scale, automated harassment, systematic retaliation. An active hate list, basically. Imagine the equivalent of a “the_donald” centralizing a database of the people to downvote or harass based on their public vote.
I think the best course of action is to no vote at all as long as the votes are not secret.
Public voting is inherent in how the fediverse is structured, it’s impossible for it to both allow upvotes/downvotes and also keep those votes secret. A particular instance could hide them from the interface but any other instance that was federated with it would be able to see them anyway so if you’re worried about stalkers then that’s not going to change anything.
About the only way I could think of do “solve” this would be to use a pretty sophisticated cryptography technique called zero-knowledge proofs, and given how many people are already having problems with the complexities of federation that’s probably not a good path to follow right now.