With Donald Trump facing felony charges over his attempts to overturn the 2020 election, the former president is flooding the airwaves and his social media platform with distortions, misinformation and unfounded conspiracy theories about his defeat.
Still do t understand why no one will take the streets to his face.
Is his mouth open…then the fucking guy is lying.
The guy got up on stage ON ELECTION NIGHT before the votes had even been counted and started screaming about fraud. I remember Mike Huckabee on CNN condemning it, as well as the Faux News team covering it, because it was just unthinkable. Then they got their story straight and remembered who’s ass their tongue is buried in, and fell in line. Bunch of traitors, the lot of them.
He was screaming about fraud in the 2016 election HE WON. O_O
And that’s not the end of it, his surrogates claimed fraud in various districts in 2020 that he ALSO won.
It’s all about making people doubt elections.
Which confuses me to this day, because doesn’t it make Republicans less likely to vote since they think their vote doesn’t matter?
Take Sarah Palin as an example. The half term Governor makes more money now than she ever made as a public employee. They know they can’t win the poker game, so they’ll make money by kicking over the table.
Reminder that Steve Bannon frankly confessed Trump’s Start the Steal conspiracy plans to a group of Trump insiders before the election.
https://www.npr.org/2022/07/22/1112138665/jan-6-committee-hearing-transcript
…audio from Trump advisor, Steve Bannon, surfaced from October 31st, 2020, just a few days before the Presidential election.
Let’s listen. [Begin Videotape]
STEVE BANNON: And what Trump’s going to do is declare victory, right? He’s going to declare victory, but that doesn’t mean he’s a winner. He’s just gonna say he’s a winner. The Democrats — more of our people vote early that count. Theirs vote in mail. And so they’re going to have a natural disadvantage and Trump’s going to take advantage — that’s our strategy.
He’s gonna declare himself a winner. So when you wake up Wednesday morning, it’s going to be a firestorm. Also — also if Trump is — if Trump is losing by 10 or 11:00 at night, it’s going to be even crazier. Because he’s gonna sit right there and say they stole it. If Biden’s wining, Trump is going to do some crazy shit.
Trump telegraphied his move for months, even years. The whole thing about mail-in bailot, and how he wouldn’t accept the result.
Well, turns out Trump has been calling virtually everything since he was born rigged. Seriously, there are 8 decades of history of Trump cheating and calling whatever it oa rigged. It blows my mind that this guy with a very transparent history gets to call the election rigged like it was his teenager beauty pageant and it could means the end of America.
Where the fuck do we go from here.
I think the most important step to move forward is to somehow rein in Faux News. Every problem in this country can directly be traced back to the fact that 40-50% of voters are getting blasted with coordinated disinformation assaults pumped into their brains 24/7. I don’t see a way to move forward without solving that issue.
This is all going to come to a head soon, they aren’t going to let him run. Secretaries of state are going to leave him off the ballot citing the 14th amendment and his supporters will go bonkers. My prediction is it will start with blue states but when GA announces, all hell will break loose.
It won’t really matter unless enough states remove him from the ballot to deny him the 270 electoral votes.
I hope you’re right, but I would not be at all surprised if every single red state keeps him in their ballot.
Red states will leave him on, blue states sill take him off. It’s the battleground states like NV, GA, MI that are going to get ugly. His campaign will challenge those in court and when they lose, I’m kind of scared of what’s coming. But it needs to happen. They need to end this fucker before election day. He’s disqualified hands down.
This is all going to come to a head soon, they aren’t going to let him run. Secretaries of state are going to leave him off the ballot citing the 14th amendment and his supporters will go bonkers. My prediction is it will start with blue states but when GA announces, all hell will break loose.
I think this is a very salient opinion.
This is an unpopular opinion.
Trump is the best candidate the left could ask for as an opponent in the 2024 election, in the same manor that Hillary was the best candidate the right could as for in 2016.
He’s weighed down by a ton of baggage. He’s not particularly popular outside of a core group of supporters. He has no real policies of his own. He doesn’t “represent” anything in that we already know what we’re getting. Also, with him in the game, the Republicans don’t get to pivot and rebrand to some kind of bullshit “fiscal conservatism” like they should probably be doing to try and get away from the MAGA branding.
The Dems can run a steady, narrow, by the book campaign and it will go better than things went in 2020. People are sick of MAGA, their bullshit, and just their total lack of constructive idealism. They offer nothing and at least some of the country has come around to that.
We don’t want to face a Mike Pence running on fiscal conservatism or moral purity as an opposition candidate to Trump. He could stand a chance. With Trump still in the scene, no other opponent really has a chance, and Trump is damaged goods for enough of the country his path is pretty fucking narrow.
I don’t think this is an unpopular opinion tbh.
I think this is the last gasp for the gop, though. They have to win with trump here and they know it. If he loses he’ll be too old next time around and the demographics are already shifting.
They know he’ll run and split the vote if they don’t give it to him anyway…
Tbh I think Hobbes decision was the nail for the gop. Women are angry and men on the fence are now too …
They have to win with trump here and they know it.
They cannot win with Convicted Sex Offender Treason Trump and they know it.
If he loses he’ll be too old next time around and the demographics are already shifting.
They can counteract that for at least 4-8 years simply by getting a better candidate than Convicted Sex Offender Treason Trump.
They know he’ll run and split the vote if they don’t give it to him anyway…
They know they will lose with Loser Trump anyway. If they dumped him they would be in much better shape for 2028. But I think if they had someone besides Loser Trump they would have an actual chance to win in 2024.
They have no choice. If they don’t run him they split the ticket. If they do he def loses.
Let’s say they dump trump and anoint desamtis or anyone. Trump will run third party and the gop loses all those voters forever.
I don’t think people quite realize how much the tail is wagging the dog in the GOP right now. There is no way they “dump trump” and still remain a party that can win.
I think this is the last gasp for the gop, though
I think this should be the focus of the work of the left right now. We’ve got a real opportunity to set up a death blow here, and the Democrats also being pieces of shit shouldn’t cloud our eyes from making the RNC a dead and buried thing. We can actually take this country to the left if our only remaining opposition is the Democrats.
That’s the same thing a lot of people were saying in 2016.
The dude has helped give a voice to the bigots and fascists around the world, let alone the US. Even just riling up that base is enough of a reason to get him out of the public eye ASAP.
It’s hard to believe that it can work again though, especially since it’s exactly the same person. If they put out some Trump like alternative that was subtle enough to trick some “moderate” independents, I could see it working. But everyone knows who Trump is at this point.
That’s the same thing a lot of people were saying in 2016.
About Trump or about Hillary? Because I was saying this about Hillary in 2016 and people were not receptive. She was the worst candidate the Dems could have run.
i think harris faces a similar reception in '28, even as a two-term incumbent vp.
(not an american here, so my opinion is basically worthless but from the outside:)
various people said similarly about both:
trump was so wild how could he possibly get elected?
hillary lacks anything that gives anyone any excitement at all, how’s she going to bring out voters?
similar can (and has) been said about biden as hillary: there’s not a whole lot to be excited about, but “not trump” is pretty fucking persuasive to a lot of people… let’s hope that people haven’t forgotten what a dumpster fire trump was… the pandemic was years ago now, and people have a short memory
Trump is the best candidate the left could ask for as an opponent in the 2024 election, in the same manor that Hillary was the best candidate the right could as for in 2016.
Speaking of which…
How the Hillary Clinton campaign deliberately “elevated” Donald Trump with its “pied piper” strategy
This was often overlooked by the mainstream media, which instead chose to focus on the e-mails being leaked, instead of what was in them.
It wasn’t just “overlooked” - there was a clear effort to make reading or even acknowledging the validity of the Wikileaks emails taboo. When they were talked about, they were dismissed as Russian propaganda and it was often implied that the contents were probably fake.
I remember MSNBC pundits and anchors explicitly saying they wouldn’t talk about the contents - just that they were “hacked” and “Russia.” It was bizarre and disturbing.
