Obviously this question is only for people who eat beef regularly.

But I just was wondering, what IQ/ability would make you swear off beef? If they could speak like an 8 y.o, would that be enough to cut off beef? If they got an IQ of 80, would that do it?

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I’ll go with the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy answer and say the cow likely will offer me in person which cuts of meat I prefer. It’s sole purpose in life is to be part of the food cycle. It knows that and it accepts it.

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And that’s what i say, it I ever meet something higher on the food chain, I will hand myself over and give it a clap.

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If they were smart enough to start protesting, I could see myself eating mor chikin.

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Yeah, even if the spelling on their protest signs was atrocious, I’d still appreciate the effort and order some nuggets.

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I don’t know if there’s an IQ amount, but there’s probably a dollar amount. The more expensive it gets, the less I’ll eat, and then eventually I won’t bother.

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Basically the same here. Pepsi has basically priced themselves out of the market for me.

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At the point where it consciously knows that we breed and slaughter them for meat. That would be my red line. I don’t know what IQ that equals to.

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How do you know livestock cows don’t already know this?

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I know they don’t know this consciously because of their behaviour. If we suppose they were intelligent enough to understand their predicament, I would expect them to protest in some way. For example by breaking out of their captivitity, trying to kill their captors, or even commit suicide.

This is not the behaviour we observe from cows. They seem perfectly happy to bond with and follow along their captors (farmers) right up to the point where they get a bolt through their head.

This - to me - clearly indicates that they are far below an intelligence level where they can understand the living conditions we put them in.

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Because they’ll just walk into the slaugherhouse unaware like a dumb cow.

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No smarter than they are now.

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Do you eat beef regularly? If so, then you would stop, and if you’ve already stopped you were precluded from this question so really shouldn’t have answered.

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I do currently, but I was vegetarian for over a decade and vegan for part of that. I never buy beef and only eat it because I work in a restaurant and eat for free.

But the intelligence isn’t really at issue, the ecological impact is why I don’t buy beef. That and the taste: it’s a C-grade meat at best, way below pork and most poultry, especially given the higher price point.

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