Everything just feels way more complicated than it needs to be.

I tried installing Openshot (a video editor) but I couldn’t figure out how to fix the error it spits out when I try to emerge it.

I will now try out Arch and hope I don’t need a master’s degree to install packages.

Edit: Gentoo isn’t the first distro I’ve tried, I’ve been daily driving Debian for more than a year and just wanted to try it out since I heard good things about it. And also I didn’t really need to use Openshot, I just wanted some video editor and arbitrarily chose to install that one.

Also I guess I will just stick with Debian since apparently Arch is also complicated.

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Gentoo is not difficult. Been using it for the last year

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I don’t think there is a point in using gentoo unless you have a specific need for what makes it unique.

Debian is a great choice imo

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if you want to try something like Gentoo as a Debian user, it should probably be in a VM or on a second physical computer until you get used to it

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I can understand English not being your native language, and it doesn’t really matter if one doesn’t speak a language well, as long as he/she honestly makes an effort to communicate.

BUT, “imma hop to another distro” is pushing peoples patience a little too much, don’t you think?

Gentoo turned to crap ever since they decided to adopt IBM’s trojan horse, elogind, and abandon consolekit2 and seatd which are active and adequate alternatives. But IBM must be paying well the heads of some distributions so they can become their little puppets.

If using openshot is the reason to use linux, are you aware it is offered for windows 11 too?

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I really love how you try to paint every decision in the worst way possible. No Gentoo didn’t abandon seatd it is commonly used. In what way is elogind trojan horse, I would really like to know.

Also, Gentoo is basically the only “major” distro that actually lets you now use systemd at all, actually most Gentoo users don’t use systemd, so I really have no idea what you are talking about.

Love how you are trying to paint everyone who disagrees with you as some sort of FOSS revisionist and here in community “Linux for leftist” you are trying to recommend someone Windows…

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Any possible recipe that can have systemd/elogind in it now has it, the problem is that some who don’t have it have sources to default to systemd if not otherwise specified. This has forced users by more than 90% to use gentoo’s default recipe instead of playing with configurations all day try to compile without it.

In all my years I haven’t seen sources to say enable-openrc or sysvinit or runit or s6, it is ONLY systemd/elogind

For ages people used gentoo because it was the safe way around systemd, and gentoo leaders decided to sell them all out to IBM. People use computers for other reasons than be building software all day getting nothing else done. If you are to build a gentoo installation without IBM’s trojan you may as well create your own distro, what do you need gentoo for? To alert you of upstream updates? You can do this otherwise without gentoo, and if you are reconfiguring recipes on your own, you might as well.

Those IBM checks must be sweet, even with a “left” mask on!

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What are you even talking about? I guess by recipes you mean ebuilds. Only 260 ebuilds use systemd or elogind USE flags. If you look at those, most of those are just providing some systemd special behaviour (loggind straight to journald session tracking, etc.). There are just a few packages that won’t work without systemd, but that is not due to some weird conspiracy theory of yours, but just due to almost everyone, especially in professional spaces, using systemd, but those packages are very rare.

If you look at gentoo wiki almost always you will find that openrc is treated at least with same level of detail, often more. If you look at every poll etc. of gentoo users, you will always find that more people use openrc than systemd. You should probably stop accusing everyone else of being malicious and try to actually look into things first.

Sure, because starting your own distro is really easy feat. Not like gentoo tools have years of development behind them and there are hundreds of developers that worked on it.

You are literally starting to act like liberals that cry “CCP bot” / “Russian bot” every time someone says something that disagrees with their world view.

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What is wrong with imma hop to another distro? That is perfectly fine English: I’m going to hop to another distro.

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…what?

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This is not facebook, smartass comments like this have no place other than the trash capitalist anti-social cannibals network. Did you not understand something in specific ask.

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I’ve found Gentoo kinda frustrating too, having installed it on my laptop just to try it out as a habitual Arch user. Source packages mean updates take a lot longer and will also destroy my battery if I’m not plugged in, there seem to be fewer packages than on Arch, the installation wasn’t exactly 100% smooth, etc. I can definitely appreciate Gentoo, but it really seems like it’s just not for me. My guess will be that you’ll find Arch a bit easier to work with.

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