After application of penalties, the final classification order is:
- Verstappen
- Leclerc
- Pérez
- Norris (+1)
- Alonso (+1)
- Sainz (-2)
- Russell (+1)
- Hamilton (-1)
- Stroll (+1)
- Gasly (-1)
- Albon
- Zhou (+2)
- Sargeant
- Ocon (-2)
- Bottas (+1)
- Piastri (+1)
- De Vries (-2)
- Magnussen (+1)
- Tsunoda (-1)
DNF. Hulkenberg
That’s a lot of change. They need to figure something out for the future here as this is just ridiculous
Frankly, they need to figure out something the penalties situation in general. Applying a penalty after the race is finished and they can’t do anything about it is bs. It needs to happen in real time or, at least, during the race
I mean, the thing they can do in real time is not routinely go off the track. And if that means fucking up a lap and going slow, then that driver has to accept that they can’t drive quite as fast on this track. If they want to build a new track that’s a couple feet wider on a few corners, go for it - but it wouldn’t be the Redbull Ring. Here, in Austria, you have to go at a speed at which you can stay in between the white lines. Some managed it. No sympathy for those who didn’t, it’s either a choice or a skill issue, neither of which I mind penalising.
That would just be a monumental undertaking.
They were handing them out during the race but since there were so many and it was constantly happening, there is just no way to hand them out all during the race.
They have to examine each infringement individually and confirm it from multiple angles before making a decision. They don’t hand them out just because a driver from their point of view says the car ahead went off.
In this very instance, it’s up to the team and the driver to make sure they stay within track limits or they face the risk of being penalised and dropped down after the race. For once, I don’t see much fault from Race Directors or the stewards side.
As far as I know, teams can still dispute any penalty, but there is not much point in this situation and FIA can’t just hire 150 stewards to each race JUST IN CASE a massive backlog of infringements like this happens again.
this is honestly ridiculous. both for the drivers, who can’t keep the car on track, and for the F1 in general.
and what’s up with perez and hamilton claiming he was constantly out?? did FIA just… “forget” about him?
this is nuts, how hard is it to mount 4 extra cameras that do nothing but check whether the 4 tires are beyond the white lines? They already have cameras and sensors galore, adding 4 more so that the drivers, teams and stewards get instant feedback should be possible
How hard is it to simply use the curbs as they did before. Imo doing it like this just makes the racing worse without any actual benefit.
What’s the difference between the curbs and the lines? They’re both artificial boundaries.
The white lines are virtually impossible to see from the cockpit while the curbs are easier to see and hence it is easier to judge the position of the car with respect to the curb. Also the putting all 4 wheels on the curb is generally slower than staying on the road so the drivers have have incentive to not cross the curb. This will both limit the number of track limit violations and make the job for both the drivers and race control easier
I’ve been all for the track limit enforcement, and I’ve been pleased about the way it’s vern handled during Q and the race.
For it to come to light that RC and the stewards got this so wrong is an absolute disgrace.
Might be better to just use sensors and relax the rules a bit
I think instead of monitoring track limits, they should just put up massive curbs / gravel / grass exactly where the car would be if it went 1cm past track limits. It would stop people taking the piss, stop the stupid penalties, and also make things more exciting when someone did go to far with them then disadvantaged for a straight etc.
Well the issue here might be that this creates a new safety issue as more or less seen when Hamilton and verstappen stacked on each other. I don’t know why they are enforcing these limits. If it’s enforced for nobody there is no unfair advantage to be gained
