Fairphone brings a much better device to market with better cameras, a better screen, likely a better chip, open hardware specifications and modularity, a completely unlockable bootloader (with likely support for CalyxOS and other ROM’s shortly), and up to 8 years of software support(!), but people say they won’t get it because no headphone jack…
MFW people have their priorities extremely mixed up… That’s been the world now for 6 years, it’s time to get over it. Letting perfect be the enemy of good is how you decide to throwaway something as good as what Fairphone seems to be offering. Sony still offers Android devices with headphone jacks, just don’t be upset if you don’t get another Android version pushed to your device.
Yeah, it’s not available in my region. But, if it was, I would consider getting it. Snapdragon 778 level performance should be sufficient for most people.
Yeah, I hope the FP5 will come to the US officially too. I know the FP4 could work here, but it apparently did have issues with a carrier or two, or something.
Hopefully the 5 will bring true support for US markets.
For me it’s the camera. If the best camera I have is the one with me then the one with me is going to be the best I can buy (within reason) if they could get Samsung or Pixel quality (or iPhone I guess) that would be awesome.
No headphone jack? Not interested.
Fair phone really shot themselves in the foot when they removed the headphone jack, especially given their mission statement.
Yeah it was a real slap in the face. Especially when they debuted their branded Bluetooth headset at the same time. It’s like gee you guys just charge more money for the phone if you want to make more money. Don’t make me suffer
Ugh. Looks like they may never release a device with a headphone jack at this point. I’m fine with my FP3 but it still comes off a bad move.
Can they please just bring back the project manager that oversaw the FP3? Since the departure the company has made very questionable design choices and decisions (FP4 without headphone jack, and the unrepairable first gen Fairbuds)
Buy a usbc dac for everything you have with that plug from 1975. Join us in the modern world.
But that steals a port used for charging :/
I thought I didn’t mind when I bought my phone that doesn’t have it at first, but it really sucks having to reach for a dongle when I want to use my good headphones on the phone. If USB-C is really so superior for audio, then that would be a good argument to make 2 USB-C ports, don’t you think?
Yet barely any manufacturer does it, I only ever saw it on some niche gaming phones. Even if they did that, the jack still has a place IMO, because it’s still so ubiquitous even newer midrange headphone releases use it
I think I would be sufficiently mollified if phones that remove the headphone jack had a USB-C port on the top and bottom. I’d still be annoyed but I’ll be like okay they’re trying to make the experience better
No headphone jack. Real shame i won’t be able to use this phone.
I simply cannot understand that decision. Am I supposed to throw away all my headphones now because of this dumb, Apple initiated fad? That big vendors like Samsung and OnePlus follow the inane “courage” displayed by Apple because they also want to be “premium” is understandable, but that smaller vendors, especially the fair phone do it is just dumb.
Am I supposed to throw away all my headphones now because of this dumb, Apple initiated fad?
No, they think https://shop.fairphone.com/shop/usb-c-to-mini-audio-jack-adapter-3-5mm-18 is fine. (I’m not agreeing with them.)
Thanks, but pfffff. So I have to carry around another tiny thing I can lose easily. No thanks.
No they don’t intend you to use the adapter. They want you to buy their Bluetooth earbuds. They remove the headphone jack at the same time they introduce the earbuds. It’s about pushing sales of a disposable electronic thing. To increase their overall revenue. Apple demonstrated this by huge sales of their earbuds. And everyone else once money so they’re following suit. The reason Fair phone is pissing us off is because they said they weren’t like other corporations, they didn’t want extra e-waste, they were doing things to be sustainable, and then they pull the same dick head move. It feels like betrayal
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Please stop bogging down the conversation with this every single time fairphone comes up
Lemmy is full of first adopter technologists. The kind of people who spend all day on the telephone during conference calls, video conferences, whatever. The kind of people who deal with systems that break all the time. A very vocal community who doesn’t like foundational options being removed.
It’s too damn big. I got a Fairphone 4 and got rid of it because I just couldn’t properly use it (and because of the poor camera performance on top of that). Now they’re releasing an even bigger phone? I may be the minority here, but that’s a deal breaker for me. I’ll need a new phone in the next few months, but right now I’m only considering the s23 or the Xperia 5 V, just because everything else is just too fucking huge.
Exactly. I’m now on 4 years old Samsung S10e, with replaced battery and display, because I can’t see myself using ANY of the new phones. All of them are so giant and heavy, and I already feel like I’d like something smaller than my current one… I guess the Fairphone philosophy wins anyway, hehe.
Is the Asus Zenfone available in your region ? If yes, its a pretty compact and feature rich phone.
That wasn’t on my radar, but the same point that kinda keeps me away from the Sony that I’d really like to like otherwise applies to the zenfone as well: really short update cycles. The zenfone even more so, as the Sony is just about to be released while the zenfone is already available for almost a year. I tend to keep my phones longer, so that really is a factor.
Zenfone 10 got released in july this year. I’d buy it on the spot if the software support was longer. The only phone in recent memory that has good specs and also looks decent
Asus just quit the phone market, closed their site and application, you can not ever unlock your bootloader anymore. Zenfone are dead.
looks false?
https://9to5google.com/2023/08/26/asus-zenfone-series-ending-report/
