It barely fits in the bloody car park. So bad for pedestrians and the environment.

61 points

Hi American here - please don’t let those things take over your roads, it sucks for all the reasons you think it does

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Oh god the reddit f150 posts have made it to lemmy. Didn’t take long

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lmao my bad I just saw the article and couldn’t believe the size of the thing.

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3 points

Your post certainly struck a nerve!

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For complete fairness to everyone we should tax every vehicle on road or path from scooters and bikes to b-doubles based on the 4th power of axle load to properly account for the impact on road maintenance costs. Then additional levies for disproportionate environmental costs and harm to vulnerable road users. Keep the overall tax amount the same but shift the burden so people with smaller vehicles pay substantially less than they do now. And then add strict liability for anything much larger than a kei car.

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Yes, however with that it’d be more expensive to administer taxation on bicycles etc. Than what they’d bring in… So not really worth doing at all.

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Since the amount of damage caused by bikes to infrastructure would be small, the govt could just slap a tax for the cost to the purchase price of every bike. Not saying I’d agree with it but there are ways to make all road users pay their share.

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Surely human powered transport should have tax breaks in order to encourage adoption by promoting affordability though.

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3 points

I agree 100%

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38 points

But now that Holden have stopped making Commodores, how else are you meant to show you’re a dickhead?

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23 points

Through the quality of your driving, the aggressiveness of your horn usage, the size of your exhaust, and how quick your road rage builds.

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8 points

Tesla decked out with MuskMerch™️?

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8 points

Those are tech bro dickheads, yank tanks are yuppie/tradie dickheads.

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37 points

They’re every inconvenience rolled in to one. A pain to get in. A pain to park. Use heaps of fuel. Don’t fit in garages, and to top it off are expensive AF. I’m confident in saying unless you tow like, horse floats on the regular, if you own one you’re a fucking idiot.

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They’re also way more dangerous. They do more damage if they hit something, and because of the terrible visibility they’re more likely to hit something.

That said, if they do hit something, the people inside the tank might be ok.

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6 points

They are more likely to roll than normal cars (SUVs excluded), and when they roll they’re generally more likely to crush the roof due to their weight. So yeah, while they’re better off than the car they hit, they’re still not amazing safety wise.

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While true on the more likely to roll due to their higher center of gravity, unless they are lowered after purchased, I was surprised to find that at least for the f150, the roof strength is almost 6 times the weight of the truck.

That’s according to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety which is an independent review organization that gave the f150 one of its highest ratings.

More information is here: https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/ford/f-150-crew-cab-pickup/2021

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They’re not actually that bad on fuel. Don’t get me wrong, I’d never own one but a few of our major players at work have them as some sort of status symbol. Cruising in overdrive at 100km/h they can go as low as 6L/100km, but average is around 12L/100km unless you are doing lots of hunting through the gearbox or driving like a dick, then you can see some truly disturbing fuel usage figures.

To put it in perspective, this is on par with a modern hilux, and WORLDS better than the 2022 79 series landcruiser even with all the fuel efficiency gains they made.

To be clear I still don’t think anyone should be driving one here - our roads and car parks are simply not built for them. They aren’t that great offroad either. Really the only genuine use case is towing an enormous caravan down the hwy, in which case I hate you anyway because that’s TWO symbols of you being an inconsiderate prick that doesn’t care about anyone else.

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They cannot get 6L/100km. My Suzuki gets 7L/100km. The new F150 raptor R is rated at 10mpg city (18L/100km).

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https://www.kbb.ca/news-details/10-most-fuel-efficient-new-full-size-pickup-trucks-for-2022/?ID=200

My wife’s Suzuki Grand vitara gets 9.5L/100km no matter how you drive it. It’s insane to me, but facts are facts. Raptor might be a different beast but the rest of them are all pretty well in line.

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Yeah that’s not as bad fuel efficiency as I thought tbh. My 2004 hyundai elantra shitbox gets similar.

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I used to give them all shit about hooking their wallets directly up to the fuel tank to save time, but it seems I was wrong on that one. There’s a RAM something or other, an F150 and a Chevy Silverado in the circle of super ultra power megablokes. They all get pretty similar figures: 12-13L/100km average.

I was pretty miffed because that’s actually better than my comparatively tiny japanese 4x4 gets sometimes. They must have put some serious work in to achieving those figures with such a massive vehicle and massive engine.

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12L/100km average is for gas or diesel?

I guess us europeans are used to driving smaller cars, as such numbers sound horrible for a passenger vehicle.

Also in my country we got almost no pickup trucks. People prefer vans for tax reasons.

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Pain to get in? The hell are you talking about. It’s much easier getting in and out of a truck than a normal car with the seat a feet from the ground. Especially for tall/old people.

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5 points

Depends which truck I guess. I’ve been in a couple that were so big that the step up was uncomfortable, and I’m 6’3 so that just shouldn’t ever happen.

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Yeah well those huge lifted american trucks are a different story. Typical european truck is much smaller. Nissan Frontier for example though it’s called Navara here.

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