Great summary, and I think kbin is in a great position because although maybe not a feature rich or mature as Lemmy currently is so many migrators have said they’re here because “it just seems nice.” I think that’s an incredibly difficult feeling to capture and maintaining that friendliness and approachability as the platform grows will be key.
It’s a simple UI. Was looking up several alternatives to Reddit and so far kbin stands out the best, featuring functionalities from Reddit and in general intuitive to use - which is key to success
i agree. so far kbin is my favorite so far out of everything i’ve checked out. my worry is lack of mobile apps and the api not being up to snuff. kbin needs to catch up and convince one of the big app makers to come along. sync already says lemmy :(
I just use the site as a PWA. It’s pretty good. Sometimes the ends of a line of text in a comment get clipped but besides that it’s quite functional.
Good thing about fedaration is we can talkmtomall those Lemmy sync app users. I have my setup now so many Lemmy threads feel as front page as kbin ones. So is no differnt to talking.to people on Apollo, rif, synch,old.reddit and new Reddit back there
Boosting vs upvoting / downvoting is needlessly confusing and very different from Reddit. Maybe there’s a good reason I haven’t heard of as to why they did it like that but… Most people haven’t even seen the “you should know” post explaining how it’s even a thing. That’s my only Kbin complaint
It’s easier to understand with a bit of background about ActivityPub I think - there a mechanisms that are being repurposed.
So on Mastodon (twitterish equivalent) you have Boosts and you have Favourites. It’s fairly simple. A Favourite is a message to the posetr that “I like this”, it doesn’t really do anything other than give the poster a nice pat on the head. A Boost is a signal to all your followers that “Hey look at this” - they get notifications about boosts in their feeds - a bit like a retweet.
Roll-on Lemmy and Kbin - the Favourite gets translated into an ‘upvote’ - but does it have any algorithmic importance? That was something that needed to be sorted out. The Boost is left as it is more or less - except ‘followers’ is less important on Kbin/Lemmy - so what’s it for, exactly? Downvotes - ooh, they are new - ummmm.
I’m pretty keen on the UI here, plus the new upcoming changes really improve the layout and experience. There’s a fair bit happening behind the scenes to improve the UI/UX, it just takes time to release it all
For me amongst the small handful of reddit alts I oh so briefly tried, kbin didn’t necessarily feel the most friendly, but it did feel the most authentic sans toxic. Beehaw felt reverse toxic - it felt like an echo chamber, sanitized clean, proudly marketed. That gives me the jeebies.
Lemmy is too fragmentary and meme-heavy atm, requires too much from me. I fear that despite all it sells itself to be the contrary, Lemmy will eventually centralize. The market demands it. The incentives all point toward it. One instance to rule them all. Is that terrible? No. But it feels too familiar, and the narrative that Lemmy is beyond that somehow doesn’t sit well with me.
Kbin doesn’t feel like it’s pretending to be a force of misguided decentralization. Again, not a bad goal, just wishful thinking without safeguards. People here argue and debate with some semblance of what feels like common respect. If I’m gonna find a social aggregate home, this one feels most authentically homey.
In brief, I guess it’s kbin’s “we just kinda is” ism that drew and is so far keeping me here so far.
I don’t think you fully understand federation. I’m happily reading and posting on communities in Lemmy from kbin. Why on earth would I want centralisation?
I don’t doubt it. I think federation is great. I suspect it won’t be sustainable.
There were plenty of normal people who left to Voat a well. Anytime it was mentioned on Reddit there was a surge of vitriol but if you made it past the “hazing day” conversations were fairly normal (tho I never subscribed to politics subverse)
Your username is so long it’s partially broken the UI on kbin! I’ve put it in an issue here: https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/579
I’m finding lots of little UI fixes I’ve been cleaning up recently. Wonder how many other parts of the UI look a bit wonky when you’ve got a long username :o
I really liked voat, and then the reddit exodus happened and poopy heads ruined it.
I was on coat since the beginning. Stopped using it when the degenerates ruined it. It had so much potential.
I’m using Kbin Familiarity at the moment
We have a bestof? Sweet!