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Is this supposed to give me confidence in .Net MAU?

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MAUI’s pretty undercooked at the moment. Editing UIs in raw XML, incomplete control set, bugs.

One day could be useful, and there are some 3rd parties providing controls… but of course this is microsoft so they will work on it for 2-3 years, and then write something new, throwing MAUI into the dustbin.

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MAUI is an open source project that’s a part of the .NET Foundation. One would hope that instills a bit more confidence, but I have yet to see any projects actually using it. Regardless, it’s forkable and permissively licensed (MIT), so the lifetime is theoretically indefinite.

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I meant MAUI

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Like the island that’s a part of Hawaii? /s

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I have started using Avalonia, and even though I am still learning, I am very satisfied with it. There are growing pains obviously, but as you said, I have no confidence in Microsoft UI frameworks.

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Well at this point, don’t trust any framework Microsoft pushes. They told everyone UWP was the future for Windows after WPF, then stopped for WinUI and the app SDK…

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The problem with UWP is that nobody liked or wanted it, so obviously it died. Developers got locked into a walled garden, Xbox users saw no benefit (until recently with emulators, but I digress), Windows phone users practically didn’t exist to build apps for, and PC gamers got the real short end of the stick with everything becoming a buggy, locked-down, performance-hampering, feature-lacking mess.

Outside of letting Microsoft half-ass port some Xbox titles to PC, it was pretty much useless.

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I feel dumb for falling for the Xamarin.Forms train. I have zero confidence in any MS UI framework including Blazor.

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How long did it survive?

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Darn. I was really hoping it would improve.

I guess I can just use VS Code for now. And maybe use Rider in the future.

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Rider doesn’t support MAUI. Nor does it support .net for iOS and .net for Mac which are part of MAUI and the natural upgrade from Xamarin. I downloaded Rider a few months ago and enjoyed being able to switch between VSMac and Rider, and especially enjoyed using CoPilot in Rider.

However Rider has a couple of nasty bugs that have been there for years - one of which was to ignore breakpoints. That came and went on me for a while.

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I’ve never experienced the breakpoint issue with Rider but I do find myself needing to invalidate cache and reload every now and then if I’m using it heavily. To be fair though I’ve had to do the same with VS for windows. It was always nice to use VS for Mac as a last resort sanity check though just to roll out that Rider is having issues and not my code.

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Cache clearing has been mentioned as a way to fix issues, but it didn’t work for me. I agree with your comment about the value in having a second IDE though.

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I take back this comment partially. As 2023.1 (which I have), rider failed to support MAUI. As at 2023.2, they say they have preview support available. I’ve downloaded, and am giving it a try.

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They should just port the standard VS or finally work on bootcamp for ARM.

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You can run an insider preview version of Windows on Apple Silicon Macs (can’t boot yet, but you can run it in a VM).

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