The federal Liberals are seeing a dive in popularity among younger voters, once the core of their base, falling 23 points behind the Conservatives by the end of August, according to new polling from Nanos Research.
Anyone who would put the Conservatives ahead of the Liberals on anything hasn’t been paying attention.
I wish we had better options. The NDP could have this in the bag if they actually tried.
Anyone saying they’d vote Liberal instead of any other parry likely isn’t a renter. Or you know, you could recognize that different people have different reasons for voting. Agree on your point about the NDP tho, that they’re not making hay in the current socioeconomic context is pretty damning on party leadership.
Anyone saying they’d vote Liberal instead of any other parry likely isn’t a renter.
I rent. I vote Liberal. I’ll do it again.
The rules are simple:
- pick a party with a plan (a) that benefits canadians (b) that they can implement ( c) and with enough popularity to win an election (d).
- repeat every election.
Except: (a) isn’t conservatives’ strong point (b) isn’t conservatives’ strong point ( c) isn’t the greens’ strong point (d) isn’t the oranges’ strong point until we have better voting
It was liberal last time. Until the average IQ goes up and people realize the cons are still schlepping some trickle-down scam and stop perpetuating their mess, we won’t get a better party into play.
Don’t split the vote. Minority Red is better than cruel blues.
I rent, I vote NDP. Singh has a temper but he’s a good guy.
https://www.narcity.com/jagmeet-singh-conservatives-laughing-canadians-cant-afford-groceries
I have friends who rent who would “love to vote NDP but they’re never going to win so they vote Liberal as to not throw away their vote”. Fuck. The system is broken if people need to vote like this.
I can’t wait for my generation to be old enough to be elected.
Ndp needs a stronger leader, not some clown who cries racism or similar every time he’s backed into a corner
Just imagine where we’d be if Jack Layton was still with us
Honestly, we’d be in a better spot if Tom Mulcair was still in charge. Or, if Charlie Angus had won instead.
Singh is okay, if you’re campaigning in the heady days of 2015-2019. He’s not the person you want now; you want an empathic economic populist–the Canadian equivalent to Sanders, if you will.
Singh isn’t that. Layton wasn’t, either. Layton did well because the Bloc and Liberals both collapsed and Harper had a natural vote ceiling.
One more time for the people at the back: POLLS ARE VOTER MANIPULATION
Polls and their news coverage gives people the impression that the outcome has been decided and demoralize / frustrate voters. It’s why Thug Ford won a majority in Ontario with just 17% of eligible voters.
SHOW THE FUCK UP TO VOTE, AND BRING THREE FRIENDS.
Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
Do you have any research on that you can point to? I was under the impression that polls are pretty good at getting people excited in some situations.
Yeah, but sometimes it’s “looks like the NDP is becoming a major party out of nowhere!”, like back in the Layton days.
From housing affordability to climate change, Trudeau attempted to reach out directly to the demographic that’s helped him win past elections
Really? From the guys who
- Did nothing about housing since 2015
- Won’t do anything about housing that might inconvenience developers and landlords in any way
- Is talking all sorts of “studies” and “consultations” on housing…
- …but bought a five billion dollar oil pipeline without having to go on any such consultative exercises.
Please. The Liberals know what they need to do to fix housing (regulation on investment & speculation, massive and direct public housing) and they know that it’ll help the youth vote. They don’t want to do it, though, because their donor class would scream and they–the Liberals–are allergic to direct public spending.
Until they can find a “market-based solution” they won’t do a damn thing.
And anyone who looks to the conservatives when they’re feeling “economically anxious” hasn’t paid attention to the complete trainwreck that austerity policy is. Think things suck now? Wait until the conservatives get in and do the exact same thing, only with more service cuts and tax breaks for the very rich.
Almost everything you’ve listed is provincial jurisdiction. We don’t have a national securities regulator because the last attempt at one was struck down by the SCC. Most business regulation is provincial, zoning is provincial, property taxes are provincial etc.
The BoC controls interest rates, but they act independently, the PM has no control over what they do beyond who they appoint to run it.
The only way they can get involved is with federal-provincial agreements. The provinces have deep connections with developers, so they’re not going to do anything about the real issues of restrictive zoning and so on. Just look at Doug Ford and the Green Belt fiasco.
If you want to fix housing, go after the province. Agree or not with what they did, interprovincial pipelines are a federal responsibility.
I’m quick to pounce on both-sides-ism, but OP seems to make a clear criticism of the Liberals policy history without venturing there. On several portfolios, they have done pretty good work, but to imply that they can do nothing on housing affordability is disingenuous. The feds used to fund public housing, and they could do it again. They could work directly with municipalities if the provinces object (which they probably wouldn’t).
They also regulate mortgage rules. Term lengths, stress tests, capital gains rules, etc. There are plenty of levers they could pull to make it easier for new home owners, and harder for real-estate speculators. They could also provide low interest mortgages, or interest relief, to designated groups.
The Feds have all sorts of their own levers they could pull to reign in the housing market. To date, the only levers they’ve pulled are to increase demand (RRPS withdrawls, shared equity (LOL), FHSA).
I think it should be clearer the Liberals has only done things where people pump even more money into real estate.
I really don’t understand why there’s any debate whether they would do anything for prices when the person who was their Housing Minister flipped houses and said investor like him was doing Canadians a solid.
Wonder if they’ll suddenly remember about electoral reform if they find themselves on the wrong side of first-past-the-post.
Nope, because they know that FPTP means they stand a chance at a majority in the future.
PR would mean permanent minority status, which, in turn, means both a) less corporate cash, and b) increased pressure to actually deliver on popular policy, rather than be caretakers for five years.
The part I do not understand is why the press have chosen Squinty McProudBoy and his base of racists, assholes, idiots, fascists, nazis, white supremacists, misogynists, and anti choice jerks. Also zero policies other than Trudeau bad. Plus he is a rich entitled land baron who has never held a job outside politics. trump lite is not what Canada needs or will ever need.
Perhaps for the same reason why the press focuses on Trudeau and Squinty McProudBoy for Prime Minister despite them not being electable. The Prime Minister position is appointed. It means nothing to us.
I am sure the answer is, despite meaning nothing, because that is what the audience is interested in. People like to hear about famous people. The guy who lives next door that you can actually elect, and who will actually be important in your life, isn’t famous enough for us to want to pay attention.
Perhaps for the same reason why the press focuses on Trudeau and Squinty McProudBoy for Prime Minister despite them not being electable. The Prime Minister position is appointed. It means nothing to us.
Doesn’t that imply someone else is going to be elected? And while the post is technically appointed, they’re very much the figureheads of their parties in a given election.
The rest I totally agree with, though.
Doesn’t that imply someone else is going to be elected?
Yes, what I figuratively referred to as the guy who lives next door. Maybe not literally the guy next door, but someone who lives in your general area of the country, who is familiar with the people who live in your area of the country. This is who matters. They are who you are going to have to talk to every week for the following four years as you exercise your democratic obligation. You’d better like him!
they’re very much the figureheads of their parties in a given election.
That might be pertinent if we had a party-based electoral system. There are party-based electoral systems. Many think Canada should adopt one of them. But, for better or worse, we haven’t. We chose, and continue to use, the electoral system that encourages people to vote for individuals rather than parties. As such, this doesn’t mean much either.
