alternative: “stopping the trolley now is unfair to all the ones already died” - student loan forgiveness opposition logic
The argument against student loan forgiveness is that there are better ways to spend the money, like on universal childcare, than on people with college degrees. Basically any social program you can think of will give a higher return to society. The only reason to support student loan forgiveness over these other programs is for votes.
You can stop the trolly anytime, but it’s unfair for the people not on the train tracks.
Any solution to a problem that’s existed in the past is going to be unfair to those who had the problem in the past. That can’t be an argument against doing something now. Some blue collar workers could turn around and use the improved system to go back and get degrees, and an improved economy from less people in debt will indirectly help others.
didn’t feel like they could afford the loans, so went to work instead.
That’s me, I did that. If I’m what’s stopping it I don’t think loans for horrible interest rates should be given to a jobless teenager and if you took that risk that’s too bad you didn’t make better investment decisions. Those loans did more harm than good and canceling them now will help reverse that a bit.
Easy, give everyone the amount of the person with the most student loan debt.
“You can only help people if everyone gets the exact same amount of help”, is the dumbest argument on the planet. And I’d challenge you’re premise that blue collar works are paying for white collar workers to go to school. With progressive taxation, really it is upper middle class and wealthy people that are paying for that school regardless of education background. Very little of that money is coming from the blue collar workers that aren’t brining in a lot of money. If $2 of Joe the cashiers taxes go to paying for education but $20,000 of random rich guys taxes go to bettering education, I really don’t think that is such an unfair system like you make it seem. The lack of a debt burden on a large subset of society ends up benefitting everyone, including the janitor or cashier.
War edition:
You can stop the trolley at any time but then all the people who were run over would have died in vain.
I’m sure a decent chunk of the people lined up on the tracks are shareholders shouting at him to keep the trolley running at all costs.
“theyre only gonna run it a little more but they’ll stop before it gets to me surely”
That seems to be the state of fixing the global warming problem for you.
Is there a collection of these trolley problem memes? Or an active community on lemmy where these are shared?
I would like to see all the variations that can come out of this. I have already seen a few on lemmy.
