How will Lemmy handle illegal content like drug dealing, child porn, snuff movies etc? On Reddit, the corporation is accountable so they will make an effort to ensure non of this exists on their platform. And they would face legal troubles if they failed to act.

But as Lemmy is decentralised this isn’t really possible. Sure the main instances can defederate from bad instances, but those instances could still operate and be accessible on the web. Especially if they’re hosted in countries outside of the western sphere of influence. Multiple bad instances could federate and duplicate the illegal content pretty easily, making it difficult for the authorities to keep it shut down. Has this been thought about already?

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“Lemmy” can’t handle anything. That’s by design.

“Lemmy” is really just a piece of software that people can use to run forums that will federate with other forums and so forth and so on. There is no central “Lemmy” authority that could do anything, and that’s by design, and a lot of the point. It means that there can never be a Lemmy spez or Musk or Zuckerberg, fucking things up for everyone.

The highest authorities are the individual instance owners, so it will fall on them to deal with illegal content as they see fit. Presumably they’ll generally work to keep it off of their own instances through active moderation, and they’ll block other instances that they have reason to believe do not maintain acceptable standards.

And like it or not, some share of responsibility will fall on individual users to manage their own activities in order to avoid problematic instances.

The trade-off for having no central authority that can fuck things up for everyone is that there’s no big mommy/daddy to watch over you and protect you. The fediverse is better suited for people who are okay with that.

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As a certain Youtuber says “Freedom is scary. Deal with it”.

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It’s like they host those sites on a apache server.

Lemmy is just the subjacent software that runs an instance.

Authorities would track the illegal content the same way they do on any other website I wouldn’t worry too much about it. Also descentralized illegal content exist since P2P protocols exist. I don’t see anything new with lemmy.

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It just makes it easier to find. Instance owners/admins are legally bound by the host country’s laws, so the smarter ones know which countries they should host their stuff.

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My first guess would be filtering out illegal content is something that the operator/admins of the given instance have to take care according to the law of the country the server is hosted in.

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This becomes a problem though when, like in my case at the moment I’m just me running my own instance. Even if other users join my instance, how many are going to want to moderate the content? Not many I’d bet. There is so much content coming in right now. As of right now I’ve received 405 new threads, 5652 new comments and information like avatars (which could also be explicit) from 6058 users.

How does one person moderate all of that? I’m not sure (not tested, but I doubt it) whether a moderator deleting a comment or a post on the owning instance is also sent to other instances federating. I think it should (and maybe have it configurable whether you honour them or not, but it should be on by default). That way the moderator team on the hosting instance is removing stuff. Sure on a per instance level reported content can also be deleted. But that should be the outlier.

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Reddit mods worked for free, there’s no reason why it would be different here. The tricky part will be picking the competent and fair ones out of all the applicants.

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Each Fediverse instance is just a server running software (I.e. Lemmy, Kbin) that uses the ActivityPub protocol to communicate with other instances.

There is no central authority, that’s kinda the whole point of being federated and decentralised. Each instance is it’s own website, it’s own island. It’d be like asking how “Email” or “Https” would handle illegal content. It doesn’t, it’s up to the hosts themselves to do so.

On a fundemental level, each instance is just a website, so an illegal instance would be tracked down and prosecuted in the same way as any other website/forum doing illegal stuff.

Best you can do is encourage your instance’s admin to defederate from those illegal instances if they haven’t already. Let the authorities handle the rest.

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