174 points

The irony is that if they were merely antifascists that were dunking on racists and transphobes, a lot of people would genuinely appreciate them. The tankie brain-rot ruins that though.

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“You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy the fascists, not join them!”

Although, tbf, I think I’d still be somewhat annoyed at Hexbear style discourse even if it was oriented towards a good cause. Much less annoyed, of course, but “I know you are but what am I?”, Sea Lioning, Gish Galloping, and images of pigs pooping on their own balls are not great for the tone of any community.

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63 points

Let’s face it, these people are run-of-the mill internet trolls who are working with a politics angle. Their only cause is distruption of online communities for shits and giggles. Treat them like any other troll - block on user level, defederate on instance level.

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Bro I had them call me a bigot because I dared to suggest trans people aren’t trans when they’ve finished transitioning. They’re just whatever gender they transitioned to. That and, oh god the horror, that trans people in sports is complicated for reasons.

That’s it. That makes me a bigot. Literally accepting them, accepting them makes you a bigot because it isn’t on their terms.

Delusional authists seem to think the world should bend over backwards for them. Surprise surprise, it doesn’t.

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One called me an eugenicist because I don’t wear masks any more when I go to public places.

They claim we just don’t like having opinions challenged. No, I’m okay with new ideas, but when they come bundled in a sandwich of insults and mockery, the ideas lose their appeal. I don’t understand why the hexbears don’t get that. It’s always everyone else’s fault that no one wants to talk to them.

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71 points

these people a literally cultists.

Same as the the MAGAts

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Y’all “antiTankies” are just as much of a cult tbh

I’m in neither boat but believe we can wall work together for a better future

Find some common ground to bring down billionares instead

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Are you seriously suggesting that if we just talk to them we can come to a compromise? Because they’re absolutely not interested in compromise, that’s why they’re like MEGA. They are absolutely categorically not interested in anyone else’s point of view, all they want to do is beat you repeatedly over the head with a big stick until you agree with them, or at least say you agree with them.

The world does not need ultra nationalists. We’ve had them before and they don’t make things better.

Both groups can just fuck off.

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I’d agree with you, if Hexbears weren’t so obnoxious and cultish. First, they will hit you over the head with 20 different links on why the Tiananmen Square massacre was actually a fake, how the Uyghur genocide is fake as well, how China is the bestest democracy to ever have graced the earth and if you dare cite Wikipedia, you’re just spewing CIA talking points. They are anti-billionaire only to the extend they can blame the US for. And if you won’t play their little game of debunking all the drivel they throw at you, they just start to post their pig shit image. There’s a reason they have it hot-linked on their instance: https://www.hexbear.net/PPB (NSFW)

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12 points

So eloquently and precisely did you sum up my experience with them that I am starting to suspect you are me.

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7 points

Oh that’s what that image is, lol that’s disgusting.

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4 points

They should just enable downvotes

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hot-linked

OK boomer

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31 points

Big “antifa are the real fascists” energy.

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-4 points

What

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-6 points

North Korea calls itself democratic, they’re not. A name is just a name sometimes

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29 points

If that ground involves claiming that the Holodomor was the fault of the farmers, then I want nothing to do with it.

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4 points

This finding common ground is always better than constantly trying to dunk on people ☝️

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Meanwhile in my Lemmy app…

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Which app do you use that has instance filters? I’m using Liftoff and I didn’t find an option for that and I’d really like to filter some shit instances

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14 points

Connect has instance and community blocks.

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As suggested, Connect. Excellent filter capabilities. My feed is pretty enjoyable now, at least on my phone. The only thing I’m missing is filtering out comments with specific keywords but that isn’t a huge issue. I downvote and occasionally block a user if they just post an emoji or a pun.

I even have a “system”:

  • Instances with annoying users like those on hexbear, blahaj or lemmygrad: complete instance block.
  • Communities which I have no interest in: block
  • Spam bots reposting articles, reddit threads or links to some random blog post: instance/user block depending on context and how many posts per hour they spit out.
  • Too many posts about the same subject that I don’t care about: keyword block. Absolute bliss when Elon Musk and Donald Trump is gone.

I only interact with content that I find interesting. Not a huge fan of defederation if it’s not pedo paradise or spam bot/troll farm. There are some good tutorials online on how to tie a noose if one of those two are your thing. Everyone has the right to an opinion and I have the right to ignore crazies.

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Sounds cool!

Can you turn these on or off at any time? For those times when you wanna read some chaos?

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7 points

Connect will block instances or communities. Several instances like .world have defederated hexbear at this point (as everyone should), so that’s an option too.

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4 points

Sync has it but not for comments I believe.

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I was able to block posts from hexbear on Sync but I still see comments from users in posts from other instances.

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60 points

Ah yes, that central tenet of communism, “compensation”.

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16 points

Yup, logically inconsistent, and if you confront them about it they tell you they are just being “le masters of irony”.

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communism in theory is vastly superior to whatever we have now. But in practice it’s entirely inept for the human race. Maybe we should consider some sort of meritocracy that doesn’t rely on bottom up or top down extremes. Transparency and equal opportunity should be the core tenants

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communism in theory is vastly superior to whatever we have now. But in practice it’s entirely inept for the human race.

I’m assuming that what you are referring to as ‘communism’ is actually Marxism-Leninism, they’'re different things. Yes, state socialism (Marxism) has proven that it can end badly, but it’s not the only way to implement socialism, others have proven or are proving they can work.

Maybe we should consider some sort of meritocracy

Real meritocracy doesn’t exist, not without real communism first. Each generation inherits a set of inequalities from the previous one, ignoring them to only focus on achievements becomes a tool for the powerful to justify their power (I received a small loan of a million dollar and did fine, that means I deserve living life on easy mode; meanwhile the poor guy that dropped out of school to pay the bills didn’t work hard enough to lift himself out of poverty).

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Revolutionary Catalonia existed for weeks and really shouldn’t be used as an example of proving the success of anything. It simply wasn’t around long enough for if to do much.

While the Kurdish groups are interesting they exist within a larger state that is taking on several roles of the state, such as maintaining the larger economy, so that the Kurds do not have to do so. Thus the Kurds aren’t proving the efficacy of their system independent of a capitalist system as it is in a capitalist nation-state.

I don’t think you have good examples here.

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5 points

May I offer: Mutualism?

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It’s weird how they can’t seem to realize they’re literally, exactly the same as trumpers. They’re just tanky Qanon. It’d be funny if it wasn’t so sad.

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I’m fairly certain most of them are trumpers. They’re far right 4chan trolls roleplaying as what they think leftists sound like (and they’re really not very good at it), possibly for laughs, possibly to make leftists sound bad, probably both. And some of them are Chinese and / or Russian shill bots.

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Eh, I think you’re making it too complicated. The simplest explanation is normally true. They’re just brainwashed low intelligence goons forming a groupthink echo chamber. Instead of blaming brown people and “libruls” they blame capitalists, liberals etc.

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They’re just brainwashed low intelligence goons forming a groupthink echo chamber.

That’s what leftzero said.

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No, they are just leftist

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They are beyond delusional.

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