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The mistake is using Ubuntu

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Yup, moved to Mint Cinnamon in ~2015 and hated it and switched to MX Xfce since then. MX best distro ever 😁

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Distros preinstalling software lol. It should be easy to find, install, uninstall, restrict and configure software. I dont care about that bloat in the ISO. Nice to find stuff sometimes, and maybe useful in areas with bad internet, but thats not what a distros job is

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thats not what a distros job is

Bundling together a suite of many software packages into a usable system is the entirety of a distro’s job

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Hm yes but preinstalling everything just meets the need of some people that dont know what to install

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4 points

People like new and inexperinced Linux users, who are traditionally Ubuntu’s target audience?

Nothing stopping an experienced user like yourself from using a more hands-on distro

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Are people regularly opening Microsoft Office documents? I don’t think I’ve touched one since I was at school, which I finished in 2012.

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Yes?

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Most people with jobs do have to open office documents frequently.

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Yes, but I understand what you mean. So many business and schools have switched entirely to Google Docs and similar.

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I joined the cybersecurity club at my school and they used word or pdf for submissions. I spent a good 15 minutes trying to get code blocks and proper formating working on either but it didn’t work. I gave up and just tool a scrolling screenshot of my blog and added a link in the docx file.

(And yes, I tried pandoc. My blog uses quarto, a static site generator based on pandoc markdown, and it uses pandoc. I tried to generate word and pdf using it and they looked awful.)

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Ubuntu is making many mistakes recently, but this is a pretty good idea. Just install whatever software you need.

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This article is strange… The author uses “being able to open Microsoft Office documents” as a common example of what an OS that claims to be easy to use should be able to do. Then says…

When people download Ubuntu 23.04 they get an OS that can do everything Windows 95 did - with 23.10 they don’t

No default installation of Microsoft Windows EVER opened Microsoft Office documents. If this was a simple oversight in the write-up it’d be fine, but the point is hammered over and over again.

I don’t have an opinion about Ubuntu including or not including more software in the default installation (my guess is it became too big to fit on a DVD?) but this article failed to make it’s point to me by making a comparison to Windows that isn’t true.

Also…

the world’s most popular desktop Linux operating system (that’s Ubuntu, for those of you playing dumb)

Is this supposed to be a cocky joke? I can’t tell. What metric of “most popular” is the author using?

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Absolutely. The author is criticizing something that can easily be solved by… installing more software that it’s probably in the same media a user used to install the OS. I don’t see the point of this review other than “I need to write something in my blog today.”

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I think the whole point of this exercise is to not have the extra software in the media. Could be wrong.

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Which media are you talking about? The installation media, or the running system?

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7 points

Which is why Macs only come pre installed with the App Store and finder

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whatever the Windows App Store is called.

Officially it’s called the “Microsoft Store” but I don’t think anyone really calls it that (Same with the “Windows Explorer” until they renamed it to “File Explorer” as everyone has been calling it)

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What metric of “most popular” is the author using?

Ubuntu claimed be the most popular Linux distro on their website, backed by hot air. People who didn’t know any better took that at face value, including the author of this shoddy article, perhaps.

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They do have statistics about how many systems send upgrade pings. There are some caveats to that, but I believe the difference with other distros is significant enough for that not to matter.

What other desktop Linux would be more popular? Fedora? Arch?

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Ubuntu chooses to log upgrade pings to create such statistics. Contrary to Ubuntu, others respect your privacy, and don’t log upgrade pings. Hypothetically, if Ubuntu is the only distro that logs upgrade pings even though everyone uses Linux Mint in practice as an example, they can’t claim to be the most popular distro as for a matter of fact, that reality has more people that use Linux Mint than Ubuntu.

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Yeah that’s a pretty funny error, seems to forget that MS office is a very expensive bit of software and doesn’t come included with windows.

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It does in recent times. My laptop came pre installed with win 11 and office home 2021(i think).

All i had to do was click activate to link the key to my email account. It showed up as a notification on first login.

Even if not activated it still would open files with that warning.

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Including a trial to incentivize users into paying for the software doesn’t make it “built-in”.

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Is this supposed to be a cocky joke? I can’t tell. What metric of “most popular” is the author usiing?

Number of active users.

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And how do you know that number? Let alone the numbers of other distributions?

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those numbers are nonexistent for most distribution, since forcing telemetry isn’t really a cool move in the free software world

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The number of IPs hitting their software repos can be a decent way of estimating active users. Also, ISO downloads and so on.

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I reckon a nifty idea instead of preinstalling software is to have a file extension finder that suggests software based on the file extension. Sure, there are some file types that have multiple uses, but many proprietary solutions use distinct extensions, making it quite straightforward to organize the recommendations.

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You don’t even need to look at the extension to identify most file formats, as there are unique magic numbers stored at the beginning of most (binary) formats. Only when a single binary format is reused to appear as two different formats to the user, e.g. zip and cbz are extensions relevant. This is how the file command and most (?) Linux file explorers identify files, and why file extensions are traditionally largely irrelevant on Linux/Unix.

This means your idea of suggesting software based on the file type is even more practicable than you described.

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I’d love having that tbh. Doesn’t even need to be fancy, could just as well suggest packages in the terminal. It would be massively helpful.

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