Hello, all! Longtime lurker on Reddit and now on Lemmy. I’ve tried looking into getting out of the US as things aren’t looking too great as I’m sure many of you know, but wanted some tips from those of us who have gotten out. Where did you decide to move to, and what were the things you looked at when deciding to move there? How did you go about the process? What are some stories you can tell about the immigration process? Where can I start? How can I realistically make it happen? I hope this isn’t silly to you all, as it matters quite a lot to me and I’m genuinely interested in getting away from here for good. Thank you all for your time!
Find a job that will relocate you. Million times easier than the alternatives.
I did the “alternatives”. I survived. Would not recommend.
Thank you for your response. I am sorry you had a hard time with the alternatives. Is life better for you since you moved though?
Wouldn’t move back.
I am in Europe. (I also have EU citizenship so that drove my decision).
I have friends who moved to NZ to try to escape the threat of Nazis here as well (it’s not like Europe is free from the evils shredding the US).
But yeah. Socialism is great. Salaries are lower and taxes higher and I would not trade in a million years.
Not from US, but why do you wanna move out of US?
Not from US, but why do you wanna move out of US?
I’m guessing it’s politics. Our “religious conservatives” feel they can force women to have babies against their express desires while limiting birth control, sex education, and free school lunches.
It’s a party dominated by rich old white men who can’t rule over slaves anymore so they are going after all minorities and women.
Thank you. Do you also feel insane watching this shit? Enough is enough. I want out.
When the general populace is agreeing with, and supporting people who have more wealth than 90% of the rest of the US, I can’t help but feel like I am insane and am held hostage by my “government”. Enough is enough man. Life is too short to sit here and constantly fight for rights that were already fought for lifetimes ago. It’s disgusting.
Apt username, and I sympathize. I’m perpetually astounded at the ignorance of mankind.
Move to a coastal city in California, and you’ll find millions of like-minded people to surround yourself with. I don’t think this is the answer to our problems, mind you, but this State is drawing clear lines on progressive subjects. We also have a larger GDP than most countries… There’s alot of power in that.
We have a “two” party system that is slowly getting harder and harder to differentiate between the “two”. On one hand, we have a side that tells you sweet little lies that they never intend to actually keep to. The other is just using every dirty trick in the book to ruin what rights we did have, to make life harder for all but the wealthy, and generally fuck the people over for profits. It’s insane, and I feel insane having to sit here and watch as the “two” parties debate on wether or not children deserve provided meals, at a place they are legally required to be at. I do not want to be held hostage by my own “government” any longer. Enough is enough.
On one hand, we have a side that tells you sweet little lies that they never intend to actually keep to.
The other is just using every dirty trick in the book to ruin what rights we did have, to make life harder for all but the wealthy, and generally fuck the people over for profits.
You’ve described both parties with both sentences.
Indeed. And “two” is in quotations to further drill that point. On stage, one side will at least lie to your face. The other just doesn’t give a fuck and will tell you they’re going to take your rights away.
Is this you Lucy from Seattle? Dude, you need to go on a retreat or something and take care of yourself if it is. I’m seriously saying this as someone who wants you to do well.
I think everything is going to be fine. The US is not the best country to live in, yes. But there are worse places to go. I really have high hopes for the new generation coming in. The zoomers and millennials will eventually replace the old generation in terms of wielding power and the lot seems to be more into making the lives of their countrymen better.
Why not move to another state? Conditions where you are, are not necessarily the same everywhere. You can try researching for the best states to live in and see if any fits you in terms of your capacity and opportunities. At least you’ll still be in a culture that you are familiar with.
This is entirely dependent on who you are. My wife just had the highest court of the land tell her she has no medical privacy. Sure, right now it 's on state by state basis, but that can change. Every member of the supreme Court said under oath they wouldn’t overturn precident and yet here we are. I have no worries that anything bad will happen to me due to legislation, but I am a white cis male. My wife isn’t. My best friend is a POC. My inner circle is filled with nonbinary and poc. All these people are actually being affected by the “culture wars” in very real and tangible ways. Feeling like it’s all okay right now must be coming from a very privileged and secluded position. Having held multiple people that I love dearly while they cry because their rights were stripped changes your perspective on a lot of things.
But you just said it yourself, it’s all state by state. And I’ll add on that it’s city by city. There are plenty of US regions where minorities of all types are celebrated. Nothing is ever 100% anywhere, there is always more progress to make, but there are places in the US that are generally capital-g Good.
Those areas that are Good can just as easily be taken away just like my own home state has. The things I needed to survive as a child aren’t even offered to the kids of the next generation. Their meals are being “debated” by our “two” party system. States rights are stupid to begin with. It’s part of the reason our nation is so backwards and inconsistent. Oh, let me look at what states currently support the things I support, let’s just hope the next election doesn’t put someone in who will just as easily and much quicker take those same rights I moved there for away! I do not want to be held hostage by the whims of the few who get bought out by corpos and wealthy bastards. Enough is enough.
I’m in a blue state which is “supposedly better” and it still sucks ass and I still have to be effected by shitty culture wars going on.
Things are bad at a federal level. That isn’t something you can avoid by moving to a Good place, as you call it. Yes, I said state by state but that was only half the concept. It’s state by state for now. With federal protections being stripped that means we are one election from going the complete opposite direction. That is not a Good place to be.
Why not stay and fight for it? I truly believe that a lot more people are good and want what’s best for their fellow man. it’s just that there is a vocal minority that skews perspective. The majority is still for the common good whatever their background or religion/beliefs are.
As Mr. Roger’s said, “Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping.”
There will always be helpers. I hope you won’t abandon your country since it needs all the helpers it can get.
I’m also a minority like your best friend. I have very limited opportunities, for now. But I see helpers in my life believe it or not. I want to fight for them and this country to help make it a better place too.
Truly, I am happy you see it that way. I do not see it that way, and that’s not going to change until the “debates” our “two” party system have don’t include children having meals, or telling grown ass women what they can and can’t do with their own bodies. Or that gays aren’t human and don’t deserve the same rights as me. It’s disgusting, and I have had enough of it. As to the states suggestion, that’s a reasonable answer and I thank you for it. The issue still lies in the federal government has shown me they do not give a flying fuck about progressing, and instead want us to regress back to the dark ages. I would be at the mercy of some idiot getting elected into that state and doing the same things the rest of the corrupt assholes are doing. Enough is enough.
I heard North Korea is great. Immigration progress? Lol, don’t be silly. Just hop their border, you’re only looking for a better life and going through an application process is just absolutely oppressive and racist.
