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The fact you need a 4090 to touch 120fps on 1080p in 2023 is disgusting. That should be the minimum target fps for mid range hardware at the least.
Meh, game is bland anyway.

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Games don’t feel like they’ve advanced very far in graphics since the witcher came out, I should still get 144fps on my 1080ti, if I’m honest.

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But then people wouldn’t buy $1000 graphics cards all the time which isn’t very cash money for the industry

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PC bad. Game bad.

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Not having a 4090 = pc bad.

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You don’t need a 4090.

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11 points

I’m getting 120FPS indoors at 1440p with a 3080TI. Outdoors it’s more like 80FPS.

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At first I thought you meant like your computer ran faster in the air conditioning.

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I thought this until i read your comment.

Like, who games outdoors?!

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I’m sorry are you using my computer. Exact same shit

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The game is cpu bound so having a 4090 won’t do you much good if your Cpu can’t keep up, which is the problem most people have

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Even with a 7000x3d, GPU performance is pretty rough across the board https://youtu.be/vTNiZhEqaKk?t=2m46s

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It’s shitty code bound. Sometimes no matter how powerful your hardware is, software will perform poorly because it just doesn’t scale. Writing complex software like game so that it can fully utilize current hardware AND actually run faster with better CPU/GPU can become very difficult once a certain complexity threshold is reached. It’s easy enough to do for a small linear game even if it has exceptional graphics, but an open world sandbox game like ones that Bethesda makes is a completely different story.

That doesn’t mean that it’s impossible of course - Bethesda absolutely should have made a better job, but it’s by no means an easy task.

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Potatoes? You mean PCs with < $1000 GPUs?
I’m not touching Starfield until I can play it at 1440p 60 fps with decent graphics (yes, actual 1440p, not “720p upscaled to 1440p” bullshit. Neither that nor 30 fps are acceptable to me).

If Bethesda can’t be bothered to fix performance and I will need to wait years until I decide to upgrade so be it - I have plenty of great games in my “to play” list. By that time the will also be lots of mods to choose from to make Starfield worth it.

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It’s crazy to me that they make the same game for almost 20 years but still can’t make it work. The ai seems to get worse every game, computers get better and better but it still runs the same.

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Wait a year for the modding community to finish it.

When I first played Fallout 4 years ago, it ran at 20fps in some parts of the map and on medium.

Playing it again now, modded to the max, ultra, higher res textures, 60fps everywhere.

Same pc.

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That’s the plan. I haven’t actually properly played F4 yet either lol (tried years ago but dropped due to performance issues). Probably will do it soon after spending a month modding it.

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Did that on skyrim.

Don’t know how much free time you have, but I couldn’t be bothered anymore for FO4 on nexus. I just downloaded one of the bigger/better collections and ignored/deactivated the creepier/boobier mods.

Already more than enough of a hassle to get that working, with vortex sometimes not installing stuff properly, pre-cleaning files, etc.

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I’ve never played a Bethesda game at launch.

Or any game for that matter.

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It’s sad that this is necessary. And given that it took less than a week for modders to get actual performance gains means that bethesda could’ve easily done it themselves.

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You see modders care for the game.

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Starfield is a shit game that should not need the level of detailed gfx to run. Anything from 2000 will trash Starfield today. The devs know this.

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Bro you hating.

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Don’t think Bethesda is focused on making their gaming look specifically bad just to make it run on older hardware. Similar to all other companies there is a minimum spec. I do think that having such great mod support allows for this to happen which is great.

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They are sabotaging their own sales by not doing it. Starfield is such a hyped game that many people who don’t usually game much will want to play it and those people tend to not have the most up-to-date hardware. The PC I built in 2018 for about 1100€ is pretty much exactly the minimum spec for starfield. And given that minimum specs usually target 30fps for some reason, I’d need this mod if I wanted to play it at a reasonable framerate.

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That shouldn’t be a surprise for a five year old computer.

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I’m running starfield medium graphics on a 1660 super and getting 60fps at 1440p.

It honestly runs fairly good on just a decent graphics card.

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This seems like pure speculation. The relative number of people below this spec is probably not worth it for them to focus on this. Besides their explicit support for modding allows them to improved sales value. Consider for example Skyrim. It was re-released so many times and people kept buying it and mods allowed it to look great even years after its release. I think by narrowing their scope they can focus on development of a good core and by leveraging their mod community it can run on older or higher hardware. Win win in my opinion.

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I’m surprised that the mod is even necessary given that the game can run on the Xbox S or whatever the hell it’s called.

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They probably optimized the minimum settings for that and spent zero time considering low-spec PCs.

I’d guess that this is a management issue and not a development one.

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Thank God

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is there a similar kind of mod for fifa?

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