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We are, in fact, the gate.

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Ah the gategate conspiracy.

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~ Bill Gates

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It was all foreshadowing

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Check mate, Gatheists

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Check gate

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Obviously Apples claim is complete bullshit but damn ya gotta feel a little for Microsoft tho, right? Like they’ve been trying to capture the search engine market with Bing for so long and only after being crushed by Google, they’re being accused of succeeding 😂.

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It’s more about bing being built into windows I think… but I suspect they may get away with it just because it has little market share despite being built into windows…

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Not just built in to windows but forced on you in windows.

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bing may not be succeeding in the browser or mobile search space, but microsoft is doing everything they can think of (and get away with) to leverage windows’ dominance in the OS space to trick, con or force users into bing searches directly from the OS (that display in the OS or forced into edge), as well as shoving bing-delivered, ad-infested clickbait content in front of users eyeballs whether they want it or not.

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So apple is saying they don’t have 45 million active monthly users in a market of 750 million people and a 34% market share?

I’m sure ‘most of our customers don’t use our product’ isn’t what they were going for…

TBH though I suspect the EU will see through it - the purpose of the gatekeeper legislation isn’t really about numbers, it’s about market power - no one company should be able to dominate with a proprietary system. Which is precisely what apple is trying to do with imessage.

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Either implement the current standard, or release your standard. If it’s so good, then it should be available to anyone, and everyone would want to use it, right?

If I want my app to support iMessage, I should be able to do that. If not, the fuck right off. These things are never meant “for the people”.

“But if anyone can use it, then we don’t make money off it!” - then you won’t get a cent from me, period.

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I have some sympathy with Microsoft, minimal though it is, given how few people use Bing compared to Google. I have zero for Apple though.

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They’re arguing their bing devision and some others should be excluded.

Windows is still a huge market share of OSs. So, the law is capable of saying this part of Microsoft is a gatekeeper, and this part not, is what I’m saying.

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Actually RCS is not great example. Pretty bad “standard” with only one, Google implementation.

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Microsoft is still by far leader in the laptop/desktop OS atmosphere, that definitely counts as a gatekeeper. They’re literally the gate to the internet on a shitton of devices.

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When you type something in Windows Start menu it defaults to a Bing online search, instead of, you know, searching your installed software and files. It’s weird.

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That’s one of the reasons I’m still on 10, because it only ever seems to give me local results, which is precisely what I want. If I want to run a query for something on the internet, I’ll do that. Restricting the context and dataset that you’re querying against is important and meaningful. I neither need nor want an “Omni-search” thing that’s basically made for boomers who don’t understand that different data exists on different devices and services.

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You can disable it on Windows 11 btw

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