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I am Somewhat pro-police. I see the need for them but this changed my opinion of most cops. This is embarrassing. Texas has the reputation of not tolerating this crap and what did they do? Nothing. Zero. Zip.

Tennessee gave me some confidence there are some real cops left. Now if we can just reform the system I’d be happy.

ETA: to clarify. Police take about 50% of a cities budget. They spend on body armor, guns, ammo, tactical training, etc, yet when shit hits the fan. They did nothing. Is that a good use of tax payer money ? I get the need for police but I want Andy Griffith as my local cop and instead we get Jojo the idiot boy.

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15 points

They don’t tolerate crap from you. You’re on the wrong side of the thin blue line.

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Texas has the reputation of not tolerating this crap

That reputation is a fairy tale. They tell it a lot, but it’s never been true. Texas has a long history of tolerating corruption at the highest levels so long as you remain a member of “the good ol’boys club.”

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61 points

All cops are bastards. And cowards.

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Why is this comment upvoted? It contributes nothing to the discussion.

Of course some LEOs suck, and to be honest I’m a bit leery of folks with the personality type that tends to go into LE generally, but you’ve got to be borderline retarded to believe they’re literally ALL bad.

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The system itself in America is rotten to the core. It takes national outcries for ANYTHING to be done about cop murders and even that’s no fucking guarantee.

Millions of minority households in America have something called the ‘cop talk’ as a matter of survival. Because it doesn’t matter who was right and who was wrong, if a black person gives a racist cop the tiniest reason to engage, the civilian can end up dead and the cop will face fuck all justice.

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7 points

Spreading awareness is important. It’s the first step to sparking action.

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18 points

Any system that allows for qualified immunity and offers a pay rate similar to the abysmal pay of teachers is inherently going to skew towards bastards.

Sure, it’s plausible for a cop to not be a total dick, but it’s not a coincidence that so many dicks grow up to be cops.

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8 points

ACAB

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They are all bad. You said so yourself, “the personality type that tends to go into LE”. That personality type is called, a bad person. I don’t believe for a second that anyone with good intentions can look at the current state of law enforcement in the US and say “I’ll become a cop to help people”. The ones that do won’t last long if they are actually good because they will be forced out as soon as they try to stop the bad cops.

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5 points

Police should be staffed on a ballot system like juries. Wanting to be a cop (or politician) should be grounds for rejection. Everyone who is drawn does a mandatory two years. Sure there might need to be a skeleton permanent administrative staff, like Government, for continuity but the front of house folk should be ordinary people.

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31 points

Can’t say I’m surprised. It would require they actually care about dead kids, and I think it’s been made abundantly clear they don’t give a single fuck.

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Should’ve told em there’s a guy performing abortions in that school.

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4 points

Yeah well its the kids’ fault for already bing born.

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26 points

Top marks for consistency.

Refusing to act in scenarios that clearly call for action seems to be on brand for the Uvalde police department.

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"We’re feeling real sensitive to everyone’s bullying. :'-(

Come on, everyone makes mistakes. We sorta forgot to do our jobs and let 19 children and 2 teachers die.

But we learned from it. And we guarantee that the next school shooting… we’ll keep it to maybe 17-18 dead kids, tops. Promise."

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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it’s not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they’re investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers’ names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with ‘law enforcement experience’ and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It’s called “Wandering Cops.”

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: “testilying.” Yet it’s almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don’t, they aren’t cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of “qualified immunity” renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past ‘qualified immunity’ is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That’s the solution.

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