Whiny nerds who haven’t read a new book in over two decades shed tears over the fact their boring-ass game sucks and is getting swirlied in the toilet bowl by actual cool games

im hesitant to call Starfield actually “cool” yet. BG3 is rad though.

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46 points

im hesitant to call Starfield actually “cool” yet.

I’ve been tearing into it a lot, but it is genuinely the best thing Bethesda’s put out in the past 20 years. It’s still tepid Bethesda mush but the writing quality has varied wildly. The quest I posted about yesterday was just awful, but I did a questline today that entailed hunting down every member of a fascist militia and ultimately led to being able to just summarily execute a CEO for his crimes (but mostly for resisting arrest, because he was very dumb too).

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hunting down every member of a fascist militia

I get to kill Vanguard???

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No, it’s some weird revanchist stabbed-in-the-back lunatics from the FC whose entire plan was to get the warrior’s death they were denied by the war ending (the dumbest part being their side won and their primary grievance is that they were arrested when they tried to keep fighting after the war ended). You hunt them and their new devotees down in the FC Ranger questline which is a nonsensically written organization that’s trying to be a mashup of Texas Rangers and ME Specters but at the same time is a toothless federal agency with less than a dozen members who are operating on behalf of the weak federal government of a federation of ancap despotries that simultaneously grants them no legal powers but also lets them just run around doing whatever with no oversight to the point that you can literally just up and kill one of the dictators of the FC at the end of it and literally no one cares.

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We’ll figure out how to toggle the “essential” flag and then their days will end.

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Yeah that’s a good one. The crimson fleet stuff rules too. I want to make a mod that adds more communism flavor to the crimson fleet (or takes out all the individualist bs from freestar collective). Pirates are cool but building communism in space capitalism is way cooler

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If you tell me I have to play either Harry Potter games or No man skies but Bethesda, I’d choose the latter in a heartbeat.

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12 points

BG3 is legitimately one of the best games I’ve ever played. They have to iron out the bugs still, frankly, but it was a pure blast to play through the game. One of the most impressive games I think I’ve ever seen, narratively, because of the sheer amount of choices with actual consequence there are in the game.

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3 points

I’m waiting on the mods. That’s what makes most Bethesda games good, lol.

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2 points

It gets much better, but its a really shit first 15-20 levels. The game wants you to play it in a specific way and my god it’s going to hurt you with boredom until you do.

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38 points

isn’t it just like a once-and-done single player game? of course other newer games are gonna overtake it

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By, like, C-list devs iirc. Not exactly AAA title material, even with the IP.

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21 points

How you gonna diss the Hannah Montana: Spotlight World Tour devs that way?

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6 points

Not even c-list, that’s too generous. They were a half-step above shovelware devs. Everything they ever released was kids movie tie-in garbage.

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BUT YOURE A WIZARD NOW, 'ARRY

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If I wanted to play a good shitty wizard game I’d re-install Magicka

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10 points

Dunka dunka! Was Magicka 2 any good? I had a lot of stupid fun with the first one.

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I’d play the PS1 HP with blocky-ass hagrid

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Remember all the streamers throwing a fit about how they had to play it even if it meant shoveling more money at a transphobe because it was the biggest game of the year (in February lol)

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“Biggest game of the year” just means whatever game got the most advertising

Pizza Tower is still the best game to come out this year, fight me nerds.

EDIT: So TIL that Pizza Towers dev is a shithead (see replies below) so pirate that shit

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pizza tower dev is iffy af tho from what i hear

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I might need to make an antistreamer aktion emoji

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3 points

pizza tower is too expensive

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Pirate it lol the dev is shit

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Not interested in Starfield, but 2023 has games like Pizza Tower, Pikmin 4 and Baldurs Gate 3. Why would I ever play Hogfarts Legacy of Piss?

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28 points

BG3 is unmatchable, not only for hogwarts legacy but for every other game.

Starfield on the other end… is the same oblivion stuff but in 2023 and without 2023 capabilities

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from what i head the systems are worse than a bunch of their own previous work let alone contemporary products. maybe someday i’ll play more than 10 minutes and find out for myself ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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5 points

I was a fan of both DOS 1 and 2 and I’m finding the systems in BG3 much more fun. I like the action economy of 5e much more than the pips of their earlier games.

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Pretty much. Bet if they re-released oblivion, prior to BG3, it’d still roflstomp horkboris legacy

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and without 2023 capabilities

They’ve gotta rewrite the engine from the ground up if they want to bring it up to modern standards. There are fundamental problems with it at its core that can’t be resolved without a rewrite that addresses limiting decisions that were made with its overall design a very very long time ago.

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4 points

Gamebryo really needs to be thrown in the trash. It’s just absurd that they’re still using it. They don’t even have to, can’t they use the Idtech engines?

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Idtech engines

I suspect that ID lost one of their most important people when Steven Ash died, this man has consistently had a hand in projects that have turned into cult hits or very high quality games in some way and I don’t think that’s a coincidence, I think they were probably highly influential on every single team they were on. I would be very tentative about assuming ID’s work maintains the current quality without him.

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You are right, they should rewrite the engine, but they didn’t and they preferred enforce the development on the re-re-re-re-re release of titles like skyrim for every possible platform on the plant.

Look at what Larian did instead… Took 6 years, added beta access and listened to the players. BG3 is far from being bug-free or “perfect” but they released a game that give almost total freedom on how you can play it, and doesn’t feel like you are on rails every time.

The problem is bethesda and others “AAA” software houses for years just did the lazy job and now that a software house showed what 6 years of real development should look like everyone is doing the Pikachu face and crying because “We don’t want BG3 to set a new standard”. The issue is us, the players, that keep buying shit for too much money.

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The issue is us, the players, that keep buying shit for too much money.

Randian logic, absolute nonsense.

Entertainment serves as escapism under capitalism and is as much a requirement for people as food. “The problem is people keep buying bad food, not the companies that make unhealthy cheap shit.”

As long as people are captured by a system of wage slavery they will be compelled to seek escapism from it for their own sanity. The companies shovelling out dogshit are taking advantage of that, it’s not the fault of the buyers, it’s the fault of the system. If you gave these companies to the employees making the art instead of shareholders and publishers you’d get work that is a passion instead. The problem is ultimately where power lies in the companies, with the ownership.

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