Is there drama or a story I’m missing? As I understand it, from lemmy.world I can see their posts but they cannot see mine. Why did beehaw block lemmy.world?
There’s no actual drama. It’s just that Beehaw admins have a specific view on how their instance should be, and for that they need stricter behaviour and content control. Based on that they defederated lemmy.world due to [ipsis digitis] “inability to effectively moderate that instance’s users”.
I am not too big of a fan of defederation, nor of stricter admin/moderator control, but in this specific case I can understand and agree with their decision, even if I use content from both instances - it makes sense in the context.
For anyone interested, they explained the reasoning behind this particular defederation here:
https://docs.beehaw.org/docs/important-questions-decisions-and-reflections/on-defederation/
At the end of the day beehaw wants to be tightly moderated and it’s kind of imposible to properly moderate huge amounts of users at the moment with their tools so they decided to ban big instances that don’t require any verification to join
So basically, they want to be like reddit with authoritative mods and overreactive bans.
Wrong.
Beehaw has a specific goal, and it’s transparently taking actions to further that goal. It’s neither acting “on a whim” or enforcing hidden rules, like Reddit authoritative mods would.
Personally I don’t like this sort of moderation, I feel better in environments where mods/admins let users sort themselves out, but to compare it with the situation in Reddit is, if I may be honest, a fucking stupid false equivalence. And even if we two don’t need safe spaces, it’s good to have a few of them here and there, and Beehaw fits that role fine.
Ah. Technically, could they re-federate with Lemmy.world whenever they want or does re-federation require some sort of approval from lemmy.world admins?
I’m hoping they will. I subscribed to some beehaw communities that look appealing. I chose Lemmy.world out of convenience and I also appreciate the dude behind it…once things settle it would be sad if they don’t allow any LW people because of a few shitposters.
Have you considered making an account there (or on a non blocked lemmy instance), especially with how most apps I’ve used allow for multiple accounts and changing with two taps I don’t think there is much reason not tp make an account in the meantime.
It’s just that the moderation tools aren’t yet there to allow a server that wants low drama to federate with a server that’s attracting a lot of general-public attention.
Thanks for the links! I guess that’s the power of the Fediverse; everyone can do or not do their own thing. ☺️
Sadly not anyone, only admins. Beehaw situation is risk with big instances. At least it’s easy to change one if you start to dislike current.
You can read their original announcement and reasoning here: https://beehaw.org/post/567170
