Streaming Has Reached Its Sad, Predictable Fate | What should I watch? is now a much easier question than How do I watch it?::<em>What should I watch? </em>is now a much easier question than <em>How do I watch it?</em>

185 points

The decline of legal streaming, through the dividing up of content onto multiple expensive streaming platforms, has pushed me away from legal options onto the black/grey market where I can get much more content for much less on a more convenient single platform.

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125 points

They were never competing with cable but with piracy. Of all media sellers it seems Gabe Newell was unique in understanding that

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96 points

By all accounts Gabe isn’t also a gargantuan piece of shit, which also sets him apart from the other media sellers.

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19 points

Somehow my mind read over the isn’t and I had to deeply think on Wtf I missed and couldn’t come up with shit

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8 points

What did Gabe do differently? I can’t recall any specifics

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79 points

He noted piracy was an issue of service and ease of availability, not price. Case in point, it’s far easier for me to wait for a Steam sale and have a legal game than it is for me to go through all the effort of waiting for a decent crack, torrenting the game, and then waiting for the crack to the patch because of something that doesn’t run well.

I used to pirate games to “sample” them, and now it’s simply easier to just buy through Steam. If I hate it…oh, well. It only cost $10 through a Steam, GOG, or Humble Bundle sale.

Video streaming used to be somewhat like this when everything was through Netflix. One place to get everything you wanted was far easier than trying to acquire things through piracy.

Now, however, you’ve got to have 6 different streaming services to get what used to require only one, and with the price of hard drives going down every year, it’s actually easier to torrent what I want and just have things in my personal collection that’s never going to just get removed suddenly because NBC Universal decides that they want a piece of the pie as well.

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37 points

Provides a better service and doesn’t just jack up the price. Steam sales are some of the best discounts around. Embraced Linux and worked to build upon its open foundations to deliver a great handheld which is open . Great customer service in general. Obviously there will always be people pissed off but going by sales and the general vibe I think it largely favors a positive position.

I think steam is a private company so there are no shareholders to crack the whip. They seem to be good to their staff too and give back to the Linux community.

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20 points

He specifically stated that before, and also in general just focused on making steam accessible. Some people have issues with steam and what it has for annoying DRM, but compared to what EA and Ubisoft did with their platforms, Steam doesn’t shine itself down your throat, doesn’t bloat everything, and has a massive library.

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2 points

Spotify seems to have done well enough on that front as well.

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9 points

I think this is true for most people on Lemmy. But I do wonder what the average streaming users will do. What about “free” streaming platforms like Channel 4 in the UK? Content is king, and the path of least resistance will always trump.

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10 points

Two days after the Super Mario movie hit theaters I walked into my barber shop and it was playing in 4K on the TV. HDMI streaming sticks loaded with self updating piracy apps with a simple Netflix-like interface can be found easily by most consumers.

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2 points

Can you link to something? This could be useful for my old man.

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4 points

In my household, where we pirate very very rarely if ever (the last time I’m aware of was 2010, though I’m not the software engineer in the relationship), we plan to: a) cycle between apps as needed; and b) frankly, watch less tv. We’re watching a couple of things on Netflix right now but once we’re done, that’s the next to go, much to my kids’ dismay. They’ll get over it.

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1 point

Pluto TV is massively popular with my older relatives. Free, plays the shows they like, and they don’t care about the obnoxious ads. Luckily none of them have bought the fake gold coins, Trumpy Bears (don’t even look it up), or Shitty My Pillows yet.

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113 points

I’m back to sailing the high seas and dumping my loot into Plex.

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37 points

Same here on Jellyfin.

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28 points

I was always 100% on board with paying 50-100 bucks a month for being able to watch anything I wanted, whenever I wanted, in perpetuity — for the rest of my life.

Instead, capitalism chose to fracture all content behind multiple paywalls that don’t even host the content I want to watch, or censor/change it so that I can never watch the OG versions I want to watch, so I’ve instead been spending 50-100 bucks a month on computing hardware to download it and host it myself for over a decade.

I’ll continue to fucking do it too, because these soulless sociopath leeches don’t deserve a cent from me. They don’t even fucking pay their content creators or staff a decent wage, and will spend 10x more just to screw their workers. At this point I’d prefer them to fail and collapse, so I’ll continue not giving them money — I’m doing my part!

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Can we stop over-simplifying corporate greed as “capitalism”?

Ten years ago Netflix gave is the solution all of us wanted, and that was also capitalism.

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2 points

Don’t forget the taxes they surely pay very diligently.

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26 points

Use your local library! Thousands of Blu-ray/DVD titles for free you can check out and rip freely. And then you don’t have to worry about any nasty letters from your ISP.

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15 points

Thats what a VPN is for.

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1 point

Or just not getting the content via torrenting

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6 points

I honestly didn’t even include a DVD/BluRay drive in my PC build, so can’t really use those. And I tunnel all that traffic through Proton VPN, so ISP isn’t an issue.

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4 points

If you have a spare USB 3 port and a spare power outlet, then you can get an external 4K Bluray drive for $100 or less.

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3 points

Love this! Supporting your community library and building your trove of booty at the same time lol.

I also like to collect physical media from my favorite artists, so I also rip from those disks and get the best of all worlds :)

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3 points

Most libraries always give you access to Kanopy to steam movies/documentaries. Just need your library card and the app.

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2 points

My local library only has DVDs with kids movies, matey.

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2 points

Indeed however that would necessitate having an optical drive

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3 points

They’re pretty cheap, I have one that can read 4K blurays. About $70. I get access to all sorts of hard to find movies, and my library will even order blurays for me if they don’t have it in their catalog (up to 30 per year)

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2 points

leave the house

nope.avi

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5 points

Yeah, this is much less chaotic. It’s not even about the cost so much as the convince now.

BTW I use the plex discovery search to find stuff across streaming services. This deserves a shoutout here. Could be better but I haven’t found a better solution. Google voice search on my nvidia shield used to be good at this but it’s really degraded lately.

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7 points

Justwatch.com works well for finding the service hosting the show you want to watch.

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1 point

It’s particularly bad at MAX right now. Several times I’ve been told a title was available and it wasn’t.

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2 points

How do you use Plex? Can it work on a fire stick?

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5 points

Yes. There is a legit plex app on fire stick and roku. It comes with free live TV and on Demand content, but you can also run your own server on your network with your own downloaded content. If you have an IPTV service you can stream that through plex as well.

Note that Jellyfin is a similar app/server that works the same way and is totally free. Plex is also free, but there are additional features behind the pay wall like GPU decoding, PVR service for IPTV, and others.

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4 points

Plex - in the way users here are describing (important context since Plex’s management has recently shifted heavily to trying to be like Pluto.TV with less emphasis on its original purpose) works as an application that acts like a library for your own media collection.

There are 2 required parts to it :

  1. A “server” or “host” which acts as your library.
  2. A client - like an NVIDIA Shield, your phone, PlayStation, Roku, or eve your Fire Stick.

Without your own server with content stored on it, or at least a friend’s server credentials you can connect to, you are limited to the “Pluto.TV” type ad-driven media collection.

So the answer is “yes it works on a fire stick,” but you will need #1 also for it to be the single source library for your content and not just another ad-riddled garbage service.

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3 points

You need something to host it on like a PC or even a Shield plus storage space

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1 point

Yes you can get plex on firestick

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83 points

I see an irony in the fact that I can’t read this damn article without paying for yet another media / news subscription service. Stop linking to pay walls Lemmites!

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11 points

If there just was a way to micro pay for a single article. But no, it always has to be subscription based.

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4 points

Completely agree. Everyone despises crypto now, but it would be perfect for this.

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1 point

They’d do it if it made them money. Spoiler Alert…

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3 points

Reload the page with Javascript turned off.

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3 points

You need a ladder 12ft.io

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There’s no real financial model to support good journalism. People should be aware of the food sites out there so they can make a decision to subscribe. Also, I hate the flood of trash articles that just link the pay walled articles and quote 2 sentences from it. At that point I’d rather a lemmy poster link the paywalled article and provide the choice quotes themselves in the comments to save me the ad fest and ad consent pop ups just to read 2 quotes and a bunch of fluff.

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79 points

The irony of a pay-walled article from one of the 50+ news websites requiring subscriptions complaining about fragmented streaming services is palpable.

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Was there a single website where all news can post their article and be supported by a subscription model before this? If there isn’t, how is this comparison relevant?

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14 points

Yes. It was called a newspaper…

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7 points

The ads were terrible.

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4 points

Post.news is exactly that

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2 points

NPR/PBS.

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68 points

Yo ho fiddle de dee

Being a pirate is alright with me

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17 points

YOU ARE A PIRATE

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7 points

YARG!

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7 points

Arrrr!

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Scissor me timbers! 🏴‍☠️🦜🏴‍☠️

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2 points

You got a typo there… let me help you out.

I think you mean;

Scissor me tinders

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