For Context: I live in the United States of America.

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Well, are you a capitalist? Then no. If you aren’t, you definitely do. Here is the thing, we, workers, are stronger together.

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I don’t really care about the Capitalist-Socialist spectrum, I just want to live a normal happy life without tyrannical oppression. Capitalists are evil, and so far any Communist/Socialist societies have become totalitarian regimes and now ended up as Capitalist anyways, but even worse than your typical Capitalist country that still has democracy (China is a State-Capitalist country with no democracy, ironic, given how Communist they claim to be).

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so far any communist/socialist societies have become totalitarian regimes

Uh. You need to broaden your perspective. 1) many countries in Europe have more socialistic governments than the USA. 2) socialism is a spectrum with varying levels. The USA while ostensibly capitalist, has socialist roads and schools and police.

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Socialism is when people own the means of production. I’d argue that’s different than infrastructure, though it is a murky line between infrastructure and capital.

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I’d probably be more worried if I lived in Russia, or China, or Saudi Arabia, or Afghanistan, or a ton of other places in Eastern Asia, Central America, the Middle East, or Africa.

So given some three or four dozen or so comparatively worse options, you’re probably not that bad off in the US. But of course they are not perfect either.

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With all due respect, countering a sentiment with “but look how bad these people have it” or “it could always be worse” is rarely (if ever) helpful.

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I agree that it isn’t helpful, but Americans who are jaded with the state of the country have a tendency to jump right to “if it isn’t the best it must be the worst” (and Europeans, Canadians, and Australians tend to reinforce that) which isn’t right.

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Gross generalization, but point taken.

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Thankfully I don’t live in the US, as it was shown again and again that your government is doing whatever it wants to its population, including chemical tests and total surveillance. I just hope they don’t get bored of you guys anytime soon and start bullying innocent European.

  • The overly cynical details in my comment are partly on purpose.
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Except the government isn’t doing any of that. It’s Facebook and Google and Palantir that are trying to total surveillance.

It’s train companies slacking on safety that puts dangerous chemicals in our water.

It’s the infiltration of business thinking for private good into the government, which manages public goods, that leads to reduced services whose be declining quality.

I believe fear of the government is caused by business interests having influenced the public imagination to redirect justifiable grievances away from where it belongs.

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Both can be true. A lot of the bad is business getting what it wants in pursuit of getting All of the money. A lot of the bad is incompetent government officials legislating things they don’t understand, often after “seminars” by lobbyists to “teach” them. And a lot of the bad is government officials with bad ideas doing bad things maliciously.

For example, even businesses don’t want to kill off encryption but every once in a while here comes some Representative to try and do it anyway.

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Don’t get too comfortable. Fascism is rapidly rising in your part of the world.

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Probably living in constant fear that the US government is going to take away their guns.

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I’ve heard that line since the 80’s. Not feasible even if it was possible.

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No lol wtf is wrong with you all. Americans have accepted their corporate sefdom as normal?

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I’m gonna be real with you, chief: I think Western Europe and maybe East Asia are the only regions where it’s not normal to be afraid of government

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East Asia? Home of North Korea, China, Myanmar et al?

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