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Meh.

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So the premium battle pass will include actual armor sets; wasn’t it advertised as transmogs only?

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They did explicitly say that premium armour rewards were transmog only, and that not paying for the battle pass won’t put you at a disadvantage gear wise.

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Hoping it is; wording seems a bit vague

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9 points

They were very, very clear in the livestream that they are only transmogs.

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1 point

Yes but it’s identical regardless of class outside of body type changes.

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Where did you get that info from? Didn’t see any details about that in the video. But as far as I’ve been able to see online, they haven’t changed anything.

Premium battlepass will only be cosmetic armor sets (those are the transmogs. It isn’t exclusive battle pass gear), horses, titles and emblems.

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2 points

I think they also said emotes.

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9 points

I loved playing D4 with all my guys, hopping in and out together, it finally got me to really appreciate ARPGs after bouncing off D3 and grim dawn in the past.

Buuuuut, level scaling mobs and utterly boring resource management got me in the end ‘uhhh neeed MOOORE spppiirit says the Druid’.

So I moved onto PoE and now I am exiled for good 🤣

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8 points

Agreed about level scaling, the game balance is whack. I’ve gone back to playing PD2, it’s so much more enjoyable and fast-paced.

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4 points

Yeah, I get real tired of minions being so tanky…and the elite mobs, just ugh. Either have them do massive damage and require dodging, and let us do equal good damage…just not what they are now (massive boring tanks).

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I wanted to get into PoE, but seeing how endgame builds play really soured it for me. Playing through the story using a variety of skills and dodging the attacks in the chaotic boss fights was a lot of fun, then I learned that an optimal build spams one skill and kills bosses before they do anything, and if you’re not clearing that fast, you won’t be making any meaningful progress because drop rates are tuned around the assumption that you are.

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Actually in poe you have a much higher chance of getting GG gear. Much higher than Diablo.

There’s so many things you can do to target farm, and everything you do gives you more currency so you’re never wasting your time, even if you are slower than someone else.

In Diablo there’s just no chance you’re getting a shaco. And you can easily play 10 hours and get nothing except some gold which is useful for… refilling some stats?

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I am really hoping for a bit more love in the resource department. My sorcerer feels so slow-paced. It’s like cast a couple of times, wait for a mama recharge, rinse and repeat.

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1 point

Meanwhile whirlwind barbarian basically not using resource generator skills

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Yeah druid is exactly the same, it’s just so boring to go from my palpatine style Witch in Poe, to a slow, asthmatic doofus in D4 lol

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2 points

Stormclaw druid doesn’t use resources. Been a game changer for me. Was pulverize and it was slowwwww. This thing is so much fun.

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Have you checked out the builds on icyveins? The synergies on some of them, like the earthen bulwark build for example, are kinda crazy. Definitely more diversity than I would expect of a single ARPG class but then I got more into the game as I heard D4 going more MMO-like so that could just be me.

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I have yeah, it that’s kind of the problem - it’s icyveins or bust unfortunately. I did go pulverize bear which made it better, but I had the same experience with d2r.

I guess I just hate limits, I like in poe….if I want my toon to do something specific (such as fast cast speed) I can spec into that and work on it. Where as Diablo….I might get 3 passive points 😄

Chalk and cheese though; D4 did good with getting the masses to enjoy a venerable entry into the genre.

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So this looks dope, for sure. I wish there were more news about when to expect the expansions. This game is so much better than Diablo III in most ways excluding one: It’s a Diablo game without Diablo, which has left a pretty sour taste in my mouth after finishing the epilogue. The seasons will be fun, I’m sure - but I really just want the rest of the story that I feel like should have been part of the base game.

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Yeah, after playing it I was like…this game should have been called Lilith, but of course the brand recognition wouldn’t be there. At least put a subtitle like Daughter of Hatred or something. I mean come on, give her some credit at least LOL!

Personally, I actually liked Lilith’s more complicated take on the big bad. I was actually rooting for her against

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Inarius and thought her plan of getting rid of Mephisto was better than what we eventually did, which was trapping yet another Prime Evil in a soulstone…again.

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Lilith got way too much of a minor role to name the game after her. She’s a minor villain at best and already dead after a short campaign where we once again make weird ass stupid decisions. I wish we could’ve joined her, instead of her becoming another cartoon villain that makes people mindless and insane for “reasons”. Even her becoming a prime evil would’ve been a way cooler move. But now they fired that bullet and it’s never going to be able to come back. Real shame for such an iconic figure in the history of the game lore.

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I agree. During the whole section

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where she traps you in your mind, I was like…no, I don’t want to say no to you. Let’s break the fucking cycle and actually DEAL with the prime evils instead of just doing the same old soulstone trick. But alas, it’s not that type of game.

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Only way I can justify it: Mephisto is a prime evil. Lilith a lesser evil. Both clearly already have influence over the entire party. Mephisto manipulating the hero into imprisoning him has to be part of his game plan.

Killing Lilith and imprisoning Mephisto is really the only logical choice. You were really going to side with a Lesser Evil, the daughter of Hatred, and think it was going to be all dandy candy?

I have no reason why they would let a child walk around with a prime evil soulstone though lmao.

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But hey, Wanderer, you made your own choice!
…I really hated how they rubbed into my face the fact that I couldn’t choose anything but that :D

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Really wish they let players choose to back Lilith - her plan to fight prime evils was the only one that didn’t lead to a never ending wheel.

Hey you’ve got this option to end an eternal conflict of which you’re smack middle of and getting fucked by both sides; but we’ll go ahead and stick to the eternal conflict.

There could’ve been so much follow up to that choice too: fighting angels how ant to stop you from getting too powerful, fighting other primes and their armies as they fear we kill them, building protections into the world to separate it from everything, and more.

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Maybe I missed it in the lore/story so apologies if that’s the case. But what timeline is this game set in? Is it possible this is the first time they locked Mephisto in the soul stone? Like a D2 prequel?

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It occurs 50 years post Diablo III, unfortunately.

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1 point

Nah they reference the world stone and invasion of the mountain (Ariat?) way too much.

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No, it’s decades after Malthael decimated like half of humankind, which is one of the reasons why humans are struggling so much more now.

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8 points

It’s a direct sequel to D3 - Cain is dead, Lorath says something off-hand about Diablo’s recent fall.

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I need to learn Lemmy’s markdown syntax. But I agree. I really liked Lilith as a character and her motivations were solid.

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But then you win the fight, go back and the epilogue lasts all of a couple of minutes before the game loop starts over when you hop to World Tier III. It felt unsatisfying not to have a Prime Evil to contend with, and if I’m honest, the Butcher is a harder boss than Lilith each time you run into him.

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Motivations yes, how she went about it no. Having the few remaining humans do a sort of battle royal is not going to make them stronger, it will just cull most of them. And I absolutely hated how she just ended up making most people insane. Like when the villagers in the beginning started to have that dumb smile while clapping the priest I just cringed. Real cartoon villain vibes, which is such a shame for such an important character as Lilith, which is now gone forever since she didn’t became a prime evil.

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2 points

That looks cool! Can’t wait for the season to start

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