The European Union has recently reached an agreement on a significant competition reform known as the Digital Markets Act (DMA), which will impose strict rules on large tech companies that will have to offer users the ability to communicate with each other using different apps. WhatsApp is one of the companies that will be required to comply with the new regulations outlined in the European Union’s Digital Markets Act. This is because WhatsApp is considered a gatekeeper service since it’s a large tech platform with a substantial user base and falls within the criteria set by the DMA. With the latest WhatsApp beta for Android 2.23.19.8 update, which is available on the Google Play Store, we discovered that WhatsApp is working on complying with the new regulations:
As you can see in this screenshot, WhatsApp is working on a new section dedicated to the new regulations. Since it is still in development, this section is still not ready, it appears empty and it’s not accessible to users, but its title confirms to us that they are now working on it. WhatsApp has a 6-month period to align the app with the new European regulations to provide its interoperability service in the European Union. At the moment, it remains unclear whether this feature will also eventually extend to countries beyond the European Union.
Interoperability will allow other people to contact users on WhatsApp even if they don’t have a WhatsApp account. For example, someone from the Signal app could send a message to a WhatsApp user, even without a WhatsApp account. While this broader network can definitely enhance communication with those people who use different messaging apps and assist those small apps in competing within the messaging app industry, we acknowledge that this approach may also raise important considerations about end-to-end encryption when receiving a message from users who don’t use WhatsApp. In this context, as this feature is still in its early stages of development, detailed technical information about this process on WhatsApp as a gatekeeper is currently very limited, but we can confirm that end-to-end encryption will have to be preserved in interoperable messaging systems. In addition, as mentioned in Article 7 of the regulations, it appears that users may have the option to opt out when it will be available in the future.
Third-party chat support is under development and it will be available in a future update of the app. As always, we will share a new article when we have further information regarding this feature.
How about starting with the company who says you have to buy their phone to use their messenger. If Apple isn’t eventually considered a gatekeeper, then this is a joke.
iMessage isn’t as big in Europe as it is in the US. They just looked at it and declared it’s too small to be seen as a gatekeeper, in that market.
No, EU lunched 5 months investigation to decide whether iMessage is big enough.
^^ To add: It wasn’t EU that declared it too small. It was to be on the list until Apple disputed iMessage’s position as a gatekeeper, claiming it was too small. EU will now investigate. Same with Bing and Microsoft Edge.
Up to a month ago, people were irritated and would constantly complain about having to use “too many chat apps” to talk with people. The EU then demands messaging apps to be interoperable, now people are irritated and will constantly complain that they do not want to send messages to X service or participate in Y service group chats
It’s comical
Apparently the feature can be disabled…But how this is implemented will be the main point. We’ll see. I for one welcome this (forced) change. Maybe I can finally uninstall Whatsapp.
If they’re smart they’ll just do nothing to block spam via the new feature except offering a button in all new chats to turn the feature off (just like there currently is a report/block button).
Spammers will do the rest for them :(
And I’m not even worried about writing this here - I’m not giving them ideas, this one was obvious from the start.
I hold my bets that it’s going to use the Matrix protocol and keep using Signal’s encryption, this is pretty much what;;s out there already.
About too many apps, I never got bother by it really, but recently I discovered Beeper, which is a fancy frontend for an ansible playbook with matrix bridges for many popular chat apps, and I really liked the convenience of having everything in one app. The playbook they use is FOSS, obviously, and you can self host it, which I did. I use the Element app and I have bridges for WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, Discord, Instagram and Messenger. There are some flaws and quirks still, but in time they’ll be patched out.
If you’re into self hosting, I recommend checking out the playbook, or if you just want the work done for you, check out Beeper (and for the American folks, Beeper has SMS/RCS integration and can use iMessage on Android, Windows and Linux)
Any chance you have a Beeper invite to share? I’ve been on the wait-list awhile.
Try WireMin, I’ve been using it for a month, E2EE for dms, voice call, chat rooms, feed, pic or file transfers, P2P network. Its different with Signal/Telegram, which are run by a single company and could exit the UK if they have to. It is decentralized, it can’t be controlled or banned by anyone.
WireMin, as far as I can tell, is not open source. There’s no way to prove that any of their claims are actually true. Plenty of messaging apps have claimed to be “decentralized” and “end to end encrypted”, but those have been false claims a lot of the time.
I would suggest you look into Matrix and XMPP, which are actually decentralized protocols rather than a single closed source app. Since they’re open protocols, there’s actual proof of them being decentralized and end-to-end-encrypted.
Reading through the WireMin privacy policy and ToS, they are making several impossible claims, such as:
“No user information will be provided to us, not a single bit.”
As a somewhat tech-savy Matrix user, I can already tell you there’s literally no way for them to not receive user information, simply by having an app on the app or play store, user information gets sent to them for each download. Many functions in the app also cannot work without a publicly accessible server. Things like notifications, or even receiving any messages at all while the client device is behind NAT.
They even back down on their own statements in that same privacy policy:
“WireMin collects minimum device information, such as version number, platform, etc.”
And they clearly say a push notification token is obtained, which requires server infrastructure to use:
“Occasionally for WireMin App on mobile devices, an additional device notification token (e.g. iOS devices) may be collected, to enable push notifications. Again, that information is collected without exposing user identity or the device’s IP which eliminates the possibility of user tracking.”
While also claiming it is collected “without exposing user identity or the device’s IP”, which is impossible to do. (iirc) The IP protocol requires source and destination IP addresses to be known on both sides (even if I’m misremembering and it’s not the IP protocol, TCP still does).
Although I have not dug through the app, to figure out how it works internally, I can assure you it is not “decentralized”, and will go down or at the very least lack basic features as soon as their servers are shut off. Them lying about such a “large” aspect of their platform also makes me heavily question the “E2EE” claim.
Platforms such as Matrix or XMPP solve most of the issues I noted here by having decentralized servers, but ““centralized”” clients (clients only connect to one server). If any one server goes down, the clients under that server are affected, but the rest of the servers (and thus the rest of the network) is not affected.
Nice try, Mark.
I’m not sharing my pr0n with you.
Nice try, Mark.
I’m not sharing my dark web hacking guides by socialist cute femboys with cat ear headphones on RGB puke standing desk at the rhythm of some sick synthwave mixes.
misleading title. it’s not “whatsapp working on third party chats”, it’s actually “meta is working on syphoning data off third party messenger software because european apperatschiks are high on lobbyist money”.
I’m stoked on being able to uninstall whatsapp, so idk what’s this take is about. If I wanted to chat with someone that had whatsapp, I had to talk to them through WhatsApp, so they are already getting that metadata anyway. Let’s be honest, family memebers aren’t going to install a secondary app to talk to you, you will have to install whatsapp to talk to them. It’s how it works on basically all the EU. This is great.
Wow, Facebook is lobbying for a law that eliminates their position of monopoly and makes it easier for its users to migrate to other apps. Zuck must be playing some 4D chess.
That, or maybe Facebook has been lobbying AGAINST this law, and your comments in this thread are just fearmongering and conspiracy theories.
