53 points

Those colors are pretty rough. These look like they should come in an Easter basket.

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USB-C worldwide? That surprises me, I thought it’d just be the EU. I wonder what the catch will be 🤔

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They must have done a cost/benefit analysis and came to the obvious conclusion that having to build multiple variants would be more costly than the profit they’d have earned by continuing to gouge all the non-EU consumers on proprietary cables and junk.

The world owes the EU a debt of gratitude for forcing apple compliance on this one.

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Next step: EU forces RCS compatibility

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I hope not. RCS still has issues. Example, it still requires you to have a phone number. iMessage can be used with an email address.

The Apple insider podcast gents did a nice break down of this a few months ago. iMessage is a lot more than just proprietary RCS.

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Alas, sorting software is much cheaper to implement than differing hardware, so the cost benefit analysis would work out differently in that case I expect…

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Well we’re already getting removable batteries which is exciting as fuck. That one will require even more of a major redesign that it will 100% come to the US.

All hail the EU for saving tech.

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I two ports would also hurt the accessory market. American phones would likely miss out on a lot of toys.

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Oh, don’t worry, Apple will still gate the port and only allow “approved” devices to transfer data.

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5 points

Yeah they definitely made empty threats until they just succumbed. Their iPads are USB-C, their laptops are packed with USB-C ports. It’s obvious that, as one of the wealthiest companies in the world it’s not a problem to switch their hardware

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It still supports usb2 data rates, reportedly.

I’m ok with that, but if you have to move lots of data that’s a bummer.

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You get usb 3 speeds on iPhone 15 pro. Still it’s ridiculous that you don’t get usb 3 on the base model

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Why would Apple go through the effort to offer you new features if it can just deny standard features to older/cheaper models so you pony up for a new phone?

The most innovative thing Apple is no longer the iPad/iPhone, by a long shot. Maybe their VR set, but it’s too early to tell.

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I’m a bit out of the loop about USB C, but to me the ridiculous thing is that we have different standards with USB C at all, I guess it is because it improved over time???

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I don’t think too many people use the USB port on their phone for data transfer, other than flashing phones and debugging stuff.

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I guess most people didn’t watch apple event. Pro models have new A17 cpu with usb 3 controller inside, while regular iPhone 15 has last years Pro model A16 cpu (Apple does that with every new generation) which didn’t have usb 3 controller since lightning is still usb 2. iPads have support for usb 3 because they have separate usb 3 controller (not inside cpu because more space) so claiming that iPads have it for years is true but for different reason. So logically it would make sense that iPhone 16 base models will have A17 cpu with usb 3 controller.

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Now if only the cost of the device reflected it’s severely outdated hardware.

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Like the CPU?

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17 points

It’s cheaper to manufacture one device for the whole world. Moreover, states like California are probably going to also force manufacturers to use USB C. And more than 1 in 10 Americans lives in CA.

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While it might be cheaper, it’s rarely possible. Different countries have different frequencies and other stuff, so you still need to make different SKUs for different markets.

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That used to be the case, but most phones now use radios that can support necessary frequencies and protocols globally. It’s also helped that the network side has also been more standardized compared to the 3g days.

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True. It basically means the connector component will be universal. Which will lower the manufacturing cost of it.

That said, it also means that the 1st party and third party peripheral market will be universal. It would be a nightmare if companies like Anker and Belkin had to make two of every damn peripheral.

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There were already rumors Apple was going to switch the iPhone as it was the last device with Lightening. The EU mandate is convenient cover for deprecating all those cables and devices people have bought over the years.

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There are still some accessories that still use the Lightning port. Most notably the AirPods, AirPods Max, Magic Keyboard, Magic Mouse and Magic Trackpad. I don’t know if these will get a USB-C update or not.

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AirPods Pro already are.

The rest will follow suit, likely with a generational update. I’m expecting USBC AirPods Max 2 this coming spring.

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AirPods is

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That’s a good question. Those items seem to get updated like once a decade. It would be nice if they got updated to USB-C.

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I just don’t understand this confusion. There really isn’t been a question of whether or not they were moving to USB-C for at least 6 months. The only question was whether it would be thunder bolt or not, and it isn’t. The narrative was always that they’d keep lightning for 10 years and then move to something new, Schiller even called it “a modern connector for the next decade” when it was announced, and at the time it was better than anything else on the market.

Now USB-C is the standard and superior, and it’s cheaper to bring the iPhone in line with that standard than to keep lightning or develop a new port/connector. As soon as the iPads went USB-C it was a foregone conclusion that the iPhone would follow suit, and anyone who was paying attention should have known it would happen this year, 10 years after lightning was introduced as a 10 year plan.

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I don’t keep a super close eye on Apple’s recent products. I don’t really care enough to be in the know about what they might do next, I just hear about what comes out as it comes out and move on with my life. I also wasn’t aware that there was a 10 year plan because I was too young to care when it was announced. Sorry for the confusion :(

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Then I can’t help but ask why you would hold, let alone share, an opinion when you’re so openly uninformed? You say you don’t care, but you cared enough to make a disparaging comment for… reasons?

To be honest, whenever I see someone make a comment like you did I assume that your explanation here, ignorance, is the reason. Props to you for acknowledging that.

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I am incredibly underwhelmed.

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iPhone reveal events have become basically:

a) Offering as new what other brands have offered as standard for years.

b) Offering something new that only works if you buy more Apple.

I have an iPhone, and couldn’t wait for the iOS 17 release so I installed the beta. Underwhelming is the right word, the event has no right to be named “wonderlust”.

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I’m really pissed that glass backed phones have become the norm. Seemingly they’re more expensive and more breakable! I wish someone would make a metal or plastic backed phone. (Looking at the fairphone…)

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Metal doesn’t work with wireless charging. Plastic feels cheaper. Still, many companies are making plastic phones, and I’m sure some are making metal ones as well.

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On the other hand: nothing looks as cheap as a shattered glass back, or having to use a cover because the default surface is too slippery for 1hand use.

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Does it really matter when you put a case on it anyway? I’d prefer plastic. Glass is stupid and breakable. We shouldn’t be trying to put MORE of it on phones.

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Qualcomm and the Rezence wireless charging standard had tech that was able to charge through metal backs since 2015. The issue is it’s not compatible with Qi which already cornered the market so no one used it.

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Fortunately if you need a replacement it’s now easier to replace the back as it’s not glued on so you could replace it with an aftermarket plastic back.

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That’s a big selling point for me on the 15 series. I had the back glass break on my 12 Pro this year and learned after the repair that it’s effectively getting a new phone when it’s ‘repaired’. Took me 2 months to get my eSIM deactivated on the new device for a number of reasons that ultimately ended up being a Verizon issue, but that they blamed on Apple until I got Apple to send me another new device that had the same problem.

The replaceable back glass and USB-C are enough for me to upgrade from my 12 Pro. Now my debate is between the Pro and Pro Max…

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Same is true for the non pro 14 series, they have easily swappable back plates

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They’re so fucking slippery too. I can barely use my phone without a case because it tries to slide out of my hand if I attempt to one hand it.

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Wouldn’t be an Apple IO change without an overpriced dongle. Some things never change.

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Why would anyone want to buy a USB C to lightning dongle at this point? They can just buy a cheap USB C cable now.

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I kinda see the reason why. What if you have lightning headphones or a lightning flir camera. Cheaper to get a dongle.

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