58 points

Let’s not forget now that Purism is a scam. Librem 5 is a joke.

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15 points

How? I’m interested, because I wanted to buy one a few months ago :)

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16 points

Check out Louis Rossmanns video about them. A rather shady company.

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8 points

I just received mine after waiting 3+ years actually. It is pretty sweet with waydroid and KDE connect. I’m still not daily driving it because of the lack of a maps application with navigation though.

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10 points

On Sailfish OS I used to use Pure Maps, which seems to be available on Flathub. I don’t know if it works on the Librem 5 though, but you might want to give it a try? There’s also an optional dependency for offline maps.

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5 points

I use Organic Maps on Android, but it also has a Linux version nowadays. I haven’t tried it, but if it’s the same codebase, that might work for you?

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52 points

Really people still purchase from this company? I wonder how many years people we’ll have to wait to not get their tablet?

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7 points

They might do it to subsidise the software development they’ve been contributing to make so much of GNOME adaptive - for which I am grateful.

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45 points

I’m really excited about Linux tablets, but quite apprehensive about Purism as a company. Starlabs’ new tablet does also seem like a compelling package, luckily.

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20 points

Pine64’s pinetab 2 also looks pretty good

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From this blog review on June 2023, it seems that camera, WiFi and bluetooth are still not working properly.

PineTab2 seems more like a developer tinkering/testing device rather than a Linux tablet alternative for Android/iPad.

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6 points

Yeah, that’s generally the idea behind Pine64 devices. Also note that they encourage you not to order if you expect refunds for issues like broken pixels.

They’re very cheap because of that though.

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Correct. They used an old Android wifi/BT chip that had a driver for an old kernel, but it tends to run slow and crash on the newest kernels. The devs are working on wifi first and then will start doing the others.

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3 points

The price difference is absolutely wild, oh my

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1 point

Yep, I have a Pinetab 2 and love it.

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5 points

Since I don’t know either: could you tell me a bit about your thoughts about Starlabs and Purism?

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8 points

Purism’s corporate charter recognizes them as a social purpose corporation, it sounds very good in theory, but I think it’s been a struggle for them to pull off. Under this charter they’re supposed to value creating products and services that benefit society more than simply making profits. Unfortunately, I think being so idealistic has caused them to over promise and under deliver, as was the case with the Librem 5 phone imo.

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In addition to what the other commenter said: AFAIK Starlabs is the only Europe based manufacturer that makes their own Linux based laptops (non Clevo/similar computers). I personally don’t have any experience with their stuff though, but I’ve never heard similar complaints about them that are levelled at Purism.

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28 points

The Starlabs Starlite 5 looks much more interesting imo

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15 points

Those are some… odd specs.

1TB NVME, OLED with an Intel N CPU?

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Bleah, that Intel N CPU is going to ruin the experience.

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5 points

You could have a decent experience. Take away the NVME, even with an m.2 ssd, and the oled and bring that price down into the 400-600 range.

Hell, put an arm CPU and keep those other specs and stay in that range

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the low power cpu bottleneck for nvme drives is pretty intense from what I know. These specs, to me, look like the equivalent of a tech youtuber just throwing together random hardware into a case to make a build video because it’s a slow week for content.

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4 points

Linus moment

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