102 points

No surprise there. It’s overpriced, the quality is poor, the connection is frequently unstable, and the owner of a company is a bigot, who’s also intervening in a war. To absolutely no one’s surprise, this never would have reached the numbers he promised

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55 points

Talk for yourself. Some of us need starlink. Quality is great. Price is high but it’s space internet. Again connection is pretty fucking stable. Playing GeForce now on my TV thanks to starlink.

He’s a cunt but product is not

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6 points

The product is objectively the worst possible option in any place that has options, which is most places. It may be useful for some people in some remote parts of the world. Doesn’t make it a good product though. It just makes it the only product on offer.

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13 points

Sooo… some people need starlink?

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11 points

We have options, just not good ones. After Starlink, the next best option where I live is 4G internet, which is way slower. Another satellite service or dialup are other options, both much worse than Starlink. We do not live in a remote location, just barely rural, and only a few kms from a town with gigabit fibre. Starlink is a fantastic service that has only gone down twice for us in the 7 months we’ve had it, and even then only briefly. I don’t think I can fully impress upon you just how much better it has made things.

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11 points

Its not competing against cable or fiber, its competing against satellite internet and DSL. My family has a place in rural Maine and we used to have Hughesnet satellite internet and starlink is half the price and like 50x the speed.

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8 points

It’s better than than the rest. It works really well. What are you basing your reasoning on

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42 points

I agree. It’s the only option for internet in many places. I’m very happy with my Starlink service. I’d drop it in a heartbeat if there was a better option but for now it fits my needs.

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0 points

Obviously the second fibre is available. Half the price and better stability. Fuck musk. But currently it’s leaps and bounds above competition.

It’s basically the Tesla of the ev industry.

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0 points

Unless you need low latency and have nothing better around, yeah I can see how Starlink is best for you.

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19 points

I’ve heard mixed reviews, the big problem seems to be stability, at least around my area. I’ve heard it goes down frequently in heavy rain and snow (I’m in Canada), and people have had problems with satellites being blocked by trees (lots of trees in Canada).

For people with no access to Internet as is that’s still a huge upgrade, but for people who were hoping it would open up the possibility of moving to and working remotely in more rural areas without good wired internet coverage it’s a total letdown.

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9 points

Hasn’t gone down since March. Went down yesterday. Worldwide outage. My previous sat system went down frequently. Like once a week. Was 30mb down at full. Usually managed 15 most days. Sundays were pretty much unusable. Other options were dal at top 15.

So starlink is a fucking god send.

I think it is exactly that. Yes trees impact but you don’t put the dish there. We had a good damn cyclone. It was fine. We were the only people in the area who had internet. The road washed out along with fibre. Can’t get a better recommendation than that.

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-8 points

From a presentation in 2015 for fuck sake, seven years later.

Think about yourself, is everything you said 7 year ago still perfect accurate?

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2 points

He’s not going to fuck you.

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1 point

Not even one in a million chance?

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8 points

Not everything is accurate that I said or believed 7 years ago, no.

However, when a person builds a business on habitual over-promising, then it is an issue. Speculation is awesome! Telling people what they want to hear, because money, isn’t awesome.

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5 points

I am not running a business, but even I try to not be off by a factor of 20.

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5 points
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Strong business acumen I see

/s

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23 points

Meanwhile, in Australia, the pricing structure and availability of Starlink is so competitive that it is demolishing the national/ state-owned infrastructure (NBN co), who are haemorrhaging users to Starlink.

In part because the previous conservative government ruined the network for pricing and in part because of the superior performance of the lower satellites. Either way, Starlink is faster and cheaper than infrastructure the citizens already own.

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33 points

I just checked and it’s almost double what I’m paying currently for 100/40 fibre.

I don’t know where you got your figures but u suspect they’re faulty.

At best it might be an alternative to Skymuster.

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-5 points

Apples and oranges you nong.

The NBN is vdsl,.fibre, fixed wireless and satellite.

Obviously I’m comparing NBN satellite with musk satellite. 🤦

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8 points

Well if you don’t actually mention what part you are comparing people are going to assume its the part the majority use, ie VDSL and fibre.

Everyone has always known normal satellite internet sucks dick, it’s slow and high ping.

But musk is too stupid to market his starlink as a replacement for that, instead trying to win over VDSL and fibre users.

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3 points

Starlink won’t beat FTTP or FTTN, but it sure as shit beats fixed wireless and sky muster.

Shit, just not having to deal indirectly with NBNCo every time there’s a problem (multiple times per month) has got to be worth $100 per month to me.

No regrets. FUCK NBNCO sideways, with an axe.

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8 points

It’s a shame what happened with NBN in Australia. Fantastic idea, shit execution because they cheaped out.

The poor man pays twice

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They didn’t cheap out. Liberals (the name of the conservative party, basically Republicans) spent 3 times as much money for a shitter product, and now Australia has to spend it all over again to redo it.

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6 points

This. Never forget that our national infrastructure was intentionally sabotaged.

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5 points

Nothing to do with cost, overlord Mudcock didn’t want foxtel to lose customers to internet streaming.

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55 points

I just checked the price and its $599 for the hardware + $99 deposit + $50 shipping. After that the service costs $120/month. I pay $65/month for fiber at the moment.

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32 points

You know, you can make your perfectly valid argument without the insult. No need to add more toxicity to Lemmy and fediverse at large.

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-21 points

It is dumb though. Like c’mon. There’s being a toxic dick and there’s calling out a dumb statement.

I think the two can coexist. But fuck it.

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32 points

Rude tone apart, this is absolutely true. Nobody thinks satellite Internet is meant to compete with fiber to the door.

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-34 points

Potentially rude. They are indeed dumb.

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5 points

I was in a similar spot. No fiber but I could get dsl.

The reason I wanted it is I have two houses in Oregon and I could take it with me.

It’s too expensive for that.

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1 point

Yeah that’s a shame. Would be great if you could move it around

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11 points

I paid the deposit over 3 years ago and they still haven’t done shit.

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26 points

If you have fiber, it’s unlikely you will benefit from something like Starling. Transfer data wirelessly through a constellation of satellites will have running costs much higher than just having a fibre. That is unless you have to dog a trench or run a fibre on mast for km for just one customer, which is where Starling starts making more sense.

Starling is for rural customers, mobile customers, and possibly an option to counter monopoly abuse by some Telco companies. But if you are in a city with fibre, then do use the fibre, that’s your better option.

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6 points

Is starling like an interstellar zergling or something?

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2 points

I actually would not be surprised if SpaceX starts using Starling for one of their thrusters in the future. I’ll keep the typo.

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3 points

It’s a type of bird.

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131 points

a musk company over promising and under delivering. Surprise surprise

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26 points

At least he’s consistently underwhelming across the board though.

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7 points

I guess that’s the only thing consistent of his behavior… kinda sucks that companies like SpaceX are all related to him. I’d love to root for Starship to achieve it’s set goals but also I’d hate to see him get even more rich… if that makes sense

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