Why YSK: These email tips are helpful for people who struggle with boundaries and want to communicate more assertively.

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Some of these are good, some are just needlessly assertive nonsense. Especially the two where it’s actively refusing to acknowledge fault or apologize for it, which is standard PR crap. Refusing to apologize and instead saying “thanks for your patience” is what I expect to hear from my ISP when they miss their scheduled install, not from a coworker.

There’s nothing wrong with being a normal human being that is capable of admitting their own shortcomings. If never saying sorry means “being a boss” then that explains why there’s so many sociopaths as CEOs.

“Hope that make sense?” Vs “Let me know if you have any questions.”

The latter is saying “here’s the explanation, figure it out, bother me again if you can’t”. The fromer, while poorly worded, is being helpful, actively attempting to make sure the person understands before leaving them to it. It’s both a kindness and doing your due diligence.

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Seriously… and oftentimes just combining both works better. “Hey sorry I’m late, I appreciate you all being patient” or “Hope that all makes sense, but please feel free to ask any questions if they come up”

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I’m so happy to see a sane comment at the top here. So many of these are just stupid and border on alpha male don’t take not shit or admit fault crap.

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I think it goes the other way too. For people that tend to apologize too much, even when it’s not their fault, mixing in a “thanks for your patience” is a good way to balance it out a bit.

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I’m torn. I feel like admitting guilt and owning up to your failures is a virtue, but I’m not sure the rest of the world agrees with me

Neurotypical enough to read body language, neurodivergent enough to never understand why

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That makes sense. I think that’s a different issue than I was thinking. Ultimately if it’s a sincere comment I think that’s the most important thing.

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“Thank you for your patience” gives me such a visceral reaction, lol

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Agreed! It’s like…. You know we’re emailing other people too right? Not everyone is a delicate fucking flower that needs to be coddled. Yes there are better ways to word stuff, but typing as a medium often just leaves too much up to interpretation. A difficult conversation should be discussed on a call.

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My personal ones for corporate use:

  • Never use I when you can use we.

  • Even if you’re the only one working on a project, never refer to it as yours. Always refer to it as ours.

  • Don’t apologize, present solutions.

  • Don’t say “read my fucking email again you goddamn illiterate moron”, say “As previously noted in our communications…”

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The last one is particularly important if you like to eat.

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So that’s where I’ve been going wrong at previous jobs. Definitely taking note.

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I will also attach old emails rather than repeat myself.

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“Per my last email…”

good ‘ol corporate clap back

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3 points

Our company “russian anthem starts playing”

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78 points

To be honest, I find most of these passive aggressive and patronizing.

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I agree, but, you’d be surprised how many people find many of these seemingly innocuous distinctions offensive (if only a little bit). For example, I was once chided by HR for saying ‘no problem’ during a seemingly friendly discussion.

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Seems like a toxic work environnement to get chided for so little…

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Agreed. Got my revenge though. They got fired a week after I quit working there.

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If someone has a problem with “no problem,” they have a problem.

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I mean apparently some people think a thumbs up in a chat is passive aggressive.

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👍

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I don’t know how else to explain it, but thumbsup is the boomerest emoji.

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I do NP!

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Most? I can definitely see “when can I expect an update?”, that one’s terrible. “It would be best if we” sounds pretty self-assured without a modifier such as “in my opinion” (which is what the original option was doing). “Nice catch!” is also a bit too honeyed and casual as well. But I don’t see a problem with the rest of them.

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Nah. By my count, 1 is context dependent, 2 are okay, the remaining 6 are kinda cunty.

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I actually like nice catch, as long as it’s not an egregious error. There are often going to be mistakes in a document, even when prepared by someone completely competent. This acknowledges someone as being part of a process instead of focusing on an error.

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it’s a guide to being a soulless corporate cog

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75 points

Half of it is fragile CEO ego reply

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Yeah seriously, there’s nothing wrong with admitting you made a mistake.

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“When can I expect an update” makes you sound like a micro managing POS

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Yeah, there are some good ones and some terrible ones.

Also reading the whole thing, it makes it sound like you should never apologize. I see it becoming real toxic real quick.

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Yeah some of these sound straight up aggressive lol

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My go to is usually like “I just wanted to touch base on [topic]” if I want an update on something without seeming like I’m pressuring them.

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