Recently mullvad stopped the port forwarding, are there some other trustworthy VPN to do Torrenting out there or others solutions to do torrenting with Mullvad?

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I’m deeply sorry, but I had to mention i2p torrenting, it might become more popular soon.

Sidenote: I2P torrenting doesn’t require a vpn or port forwarding, and is indeed more private.

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Can you elaborate on this, it’s the first time I’ve heard of I2P torrenting

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It seems to be a special torrent client that work similar to tor (guessing with less hops though) and bounce encrypted traffic on special “i2p routers”. Not sure if they do the onion style encryption of thor.

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Thanks, I’ll be looking it up on my free time.

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I2P torrenting with a seedbox is the undeniable future. It will probably just take a year or so to reach critical mass. It’s slow now because a lack of mass.

The main relevant difference between I2P and Tor is that Tor runs on donated bandwidth and therefore can’t scale: the more it is used, the more volunteers are needed to donate bandwidth. Which is why they aren’t happy with people torrenting.

I2P is P2P so the more people use it, the faster it becomes. Which is why they really want people to use it for torrenting.

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Why do you see i2p torrenting becoming popular? I think it’s probably too much hassle for 99% of people.

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Once all major bittorrent clients support it with integrated I2P routers, the hassle is literally just checking a box, which will be on by default in many clients.

Remember when trackers were being taken down and we all switched to DHT/magnet? Same will happen if they go after VPN’s, we will switch to I2P. And it seems they are going after VPN’s.

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Yes, I downloaded something recommended because I was curious and genuinely could not make heads or tails of what I was looking at. I’ve got about 4 pis and 80tb of storage kicking around, for context. Just noped out after a couple days

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ProtonVPN. It’s an organization built around principles of privacy, so I use them a lot and support them as much as I can. I have their VPN on a docker container with gluetun.

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I’m a proton unlimited subscriber and I love it. Simplelogin, e2ee emails, vpn, all amazing. Their tech support team is awesome and they have always been fast and helpful when assisting me with my computers.

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E2ee emails is only between proton and proton btw, proton to gmail (or anyone else) is not emcrypted by default, you’d need to pgp it yourself for that.

I know that may sound obvious, but you’d be surprised how many people don’t know that so I just wanted to drop a heads up just in case anyone reading was unaware.

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Plus a great mail provider to escape the Gmail.

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I like proton mail and use it for my daily, but I’ve heard rumors it’s a fed honeypot. Seems like a good choice to escape corporate big data collection, but probably want to avoid it for anything of questionable legality.

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Yea great to get away from those damn adverts. I often wonder with enough pressure would they comply with a government or as you said are they a honey pot themselves. In europe Encrochat was a good example of it happening.

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+1 for Proton. I also have their mail for all my domains. Works wonders and feels trustworthy, for whatever that’s worth.

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Why does it need to be in a container? Also the Linux GUI client has no port forwarding options

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It doesn’t need to be in a container, but it works well in one for my use case. I use it in a headless server running OpenMediaVault with qBittorrent and a bunch of arr apps. The apps are all in containers sharing a network with port forwarding set up, so that none of them leak any DNS information.

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Running it with Gluetun makes me think they are just using that container to attach other containers to a VPN, so only the services that need to be behind a VPN.

I use a similar setup on my server, where all of my media is virtualized and containerized.

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Yeah I’m moving to Proton when my current Surfshark membership expires.

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AirVPN is a good one

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This is what I switched to after Mullvad removed their port forwarding. It works fine so far. Interestingly, the Android app reminds me of a Geocities page circa 2002.

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I’ve been using airvpn for years

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But arent they removing port forwarding soon?

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No they’ve committed to keeping it. But they have an issue with port availability so they’ll probably need to move to a per server allocation eventually. Recently they reduced the allocation per user down to 5 from 20 though just to delay when they run out.

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Thx thats helpfull

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I use Mullvad and do not need to forward any ports for torrenting.

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You do if you want to seed or use private trackers otherwise you can make any incoming connections.

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5 € VPN + 5 € seedbox is a great combo. I would swear Mullvad is even faster now that they stopped supporting PF.

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It is faster because they are losing subscribers, and because their remaining subscribers are having more difficulty connecting to peers due to lack of PF. I switched to Air VPN and was actually surprised how fast it was compared to Mullvad. (the Canadian servers at least, haven’t tried many of the other servers).

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I’m still seeding using Mullvad right now…

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Most downloaders will not be able to reach you.

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Air VPN as it supports port forwarding. PF isn’t as important if you only download popular new content, as there are usually enough connectable seeders on popular torrents. But PF is absolutely crucial if you want to be able to obtain old or rare content or if you use private trackers.

I’m honestly baffled that so many are still recommending Mullvad after they made such a stunning reversal of their friendly policy towards p2p by removing port forwarding. I wouldn’t trust them as far as I can throw them.

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Switched to AirVPN. It’s pretty good so far. Not great for general browsing because you get a ton of captchas.

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Dude it’s insane how many people here A) don’t even know what port forwarding is and B) tell others port forwarding isn’t needed at all.

Where does all this confusion come from?

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I used to use Air but the speeds were absolutely abysmal. 2-3 MB/s vs 50-55 MB/s on mullvad. Has the situation improved at all?

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for me it was 70MB/s on mullvad and 50MB/s on AirVPN

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FYI, changing from one exit node to another can change speeds drastically.

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Their decision to block port forwarding was unfortunate, but understandable. I’ve been using it for the past year and when I first started, I rarely ran into any issues with being blacklisted. Now it’s a nearly daily occurrence. I don’t know how true it is, but Mullvad claimed that much of the activity leading to blocked IPs came from activity related to port forwarding. If that’s true, then I’d say the decision is good. Like others have said, torrenting is still possible without port forwarding, but it’s also true that rarer content and private trackers become difficult. Ultimately there was no perfect solution here.

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Mullvad is nice because you don’t need to make an account or sign up with an ID or phone number. Plus you can pay with monero.

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but no PF, so it doesn’t matter how nice it is.

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