“China bad. They built a train station.”
lol
“They’re doing the environment good but for all the wrong reasons. The unmitigated greed is dizzying.”
Noooooo you can’t make poor rural areas less dependent on cars, it is not profitable!
You build a high speed rail endpoint somewhere, and development will happen there. That’s what I always point out.
That’s why dense populations are always on rivers, because you can transport things along them easily. Trains are the same more or less.
Theres people in there saying that China botched “its transition to capitalism” worse than Russia lol
Yea China’s economy is fked which is why they’re the biggest economy rn
They literally cannot say a single good thing about china to the extent they would rather deny reality lmao
They believe inframaterialism is real but also that’s bad because it means the hiveminded asians can succeed despite not following the rules.
If we post enough china will collapse in 20 hours videos maybe it manifest itself into reality
China is always and forever the image from the 1980s where polluted slums are advertised as the legacy of Communism.
I can’t believe the communists destroyed China like that. I’m sure China before 1949 was a thriving industrial powerhouse where everyone ate caviar and drank champagne!
The entire society twirled around fancy dance stage sets like in the cult propaganda treats!
Use /r/sino
I always found it funny that they crap on China for empty developments not yet populated because westoids are only familiar with the same crumbling congested infrastructure with absolutely nothing new ever built because that means the property prices can’t be inflated exponentially.
Things tend to be empty when they’re first developed or in the process of being completed. Not that a westoid would know because they haven’t seen anything new in their lifetimes.
the CCP has been good at pushing renewables, even though maybe they’re motivated by money instead of environmental reasons.
Where’s the evil?
To a liberal, it is far more important to be “morally virtuous” and “pure” than it is to actually improve the world. So if China is deemed to have “impure” reasons for renewables, then it doesn’t count, and if the US “tries” to implement renewables, but fails, that’s ok, because they tried really hard.
but they’re not even applying this moral standard consistently, considering how these libs are all pro-capital and already think that financial incentive should govern all of industry
Can’t find the relevant article unfortunately, so here’s a somewhat relevant one. https://redsails.org/brainwashing/
Capitalist ideology in general, Žižek maintains, consists precisely in the overvaluing of belief – in the sense of inner subjective attitude – at the expense of the beliefs we exhibit and externalize in our behavior. So long as we believe (in our hearts) that capitalism is bad, we are free to continue to participate in capitalist exchange.
Capitalist Realism chapter 2
Some of the most fucked up liberal logic is when some billionaire is nakedly greedy it is seen as “pure” because “gotta please the shareholders” but if a protestor wears brand-name shoes that’s seen as a moral failing for the protestor’s message.
I think they do the flip side of this too, where (AES country) tries to provide (good thing) but failed or was only partially successful then they suck and are bad and killed 100 million.
Then you have good strong (Capitalist country) doesn’t give a fuck about providing (good thing) and so when they fail to provide it that’s okay. It’s your fault for not getting it for yourself!
Nuance is for losers.
There are so many aspects of China that are awesome. There are also quite a few things that I don’t agree with or like. How hard is it to understand you can agree AND disagree at the same time?
The anti-china propaganda and other similar bullshit doesn’t help either. Hard for someone without that understanding to get over the hurdle of “bad thing” to support any good things.
I’m high AF and had a lot of trouble writing this. To summarize, if you believe China did a good then you can praise that. Even if you also believe they did a bad.
Nah, it’s fine, you’re making sense. The liberal worldview tries to fit everything into binary good/bad when the real world doesn’t exist like that. Any nation or group of people will do good things and bad things, liberals just ignore or justify the “bad things” their team does, while ignoring or denying all the good things the enemy team does.
It’s important for us to remember to actively reject this sort of mentality ourselves, it can be tempting to push back against liberal claims about China with a “China is actually perfect and an ideal place!” but that isn’t any more true than whatever liberal horror story about them is being pushed in the news this week. China is a nation like any other, with great accomplishments, but also errors and failures.
It’s funny because this is what liberals believe in. Several times when you bring up how capitalists will fuck up “improvements” over their profit motive, they’ll reduce your concerns to “wow so some people make money, and that’s bad to commies.” I’m assuming this guy is a liberal because that sub is just conservatives and liberals circle jerking about how much they hate Chinese people
