That entire instance is infested with a massive amount of right-wing hate, transphobia, homophobia, and ugly political vitriol under the guise of “allowing free speech”, rising to the same level or worse than lemmygrad (which we have already defederated from for obvious reasons). Please get this garbage off of the “all” page given that the entire instance actively breaks the rules of lemmy.one and is only providing them with a larger platform. I think a few trolls may have already spilled over.

just take a 20 second scroll through this mess or any of the other communities there: https://lemmy.one/c/dankmemes@exploding-heads.com

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If a web platform is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant will be destroyed by the intolerant.

In order to maintain a tolerant Lemmyverse, then we must all retain the right to be intolerant of intolerance.

Exploding-heads is an intolerant site not just overrun with, but run BY biggots. You have to cut them out like a cancer before all of Lemmy becomes a site like Voat or Truth Social.

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I’m not on your instance, so I don’t get a ton of say, but I would just recommend that part of the Alt-Right’s playbook is getting seen by as many eyes as possible. exploding-heads is trying to find ways to game the federation system and the algorithm to determine “hot” to platform their hate and pipeline people who don’t recognize the dog whistles to their side. Whether you mind or don’t mind seeing the content or can or cannot block the communities and users from over there is immaterial to exploding-heads’s strategy. The point is to get seen that first time.

Further, whether you agree with the above, please consider this: telling vulnerable groups to do their own moderation on an individual level is an inherently privileged stance. Part of the alt-right’s strategy is cyber-bullying. I’m going to focus on the cyber-bullying in this section of this discussion, just under the assumption that people disagree with my stance that exploding-heads is trying to promote a particular political agenda. Whether you agree or disagree on that point is immaterial. There is no denying that exploding-heads users engage in a pattern of cyber-bullying against minority groups. The aim in that case is to cause mental harm to those minority groups. If there’s a pattern, why not address the root cause? That root cause being that exploding-heads is not moderated or administrated to the standards other instances in the federation expect, or even to the standards laid out in their sidebar rules.

Users of the fediverse join the instances they do with particular understandings of the rules and moderation styles that administrators provide to their users in their sidebar and any documents linked from there before signing up. Here are some selected rules from lemmy.one that exploding-heads users break regularly:

No racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, xenophobia, or casteism

No incitement of violence or promotion of violent ideologies

No harassment, dogpiling or doxxing of other users

Do not share intentionally false or misleading information


So, please. To the administrators of lemmy.one, consider these points when you make your decision. Let your own users’ voices stand out more. But if you’re a lemmy.one user, please take all of this into consideration as you make your recommendation

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Exploding-heads was here years before any of you or the instances you’re on. They were happily sitting there posting and discussing daily about the things that interest them. You might disagree with what they’re talking about, but don’t act like they’re only doing it to spite you.

You redditors came into a space that existed for years before you ever even heard of it, act like you invented it, then act all outraged that there were already people here and their existence is a giant conspiracy theory meant to spite you personally.

You want to defederate from them? Go ahead. That’s the right and power of each instance to choose who to associate with. But quit it with the narcissistic conspiracy theories. A lot of people were chased off of big tech before you, they didn’t just stop existing – they ended up somewhere and often that was the fediverse.

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narcissistic conspiracy theories? tf you smokin bro?

I just said they’re a hate ridden cesspool, no conspiracies, it’s just an ugly mess that needs to be contained. No shit they never stopped existing, but they need to be slapped down everywhere they’re seen. Let them keep fleeing and being chased away, they deserve no platform.

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The narcissistic conspiracy theory is pretending that exploding-heads exists solely to mess with you personally, and that they just came to exist to mess with you and abuse the communities that only just came to exist about a month ago.

People who disagree with you exist. It’s not some conspiracy theory meant to harm you personally.

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26 points

That’s a lot of words to apologize for bigots.

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I don’t recall anyone apologizing.

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To be fair… yes* they did post before the reddit exodus happened*

EDIT: Defederation needs to be due to the accused violationg a bight line rule of making a reasonable effort to prevent hate or intolerance and not by any culture war bs

I believe We have crossed that threshold here

However, that doesnt take away anyones right to defederate. If we dont want to federate with the group that encourages people to have PFPs that are

Transphobic

Of A boy (kalbin and hobbs?) Peeing on a trans flag

We dont have to,

no matter how much I would love to see them in the corner doing their own thing, their right to swing their arms ends when it hits a trans persons face. and being on the home page is militarally useful.

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I wish I could argue with you on this point, but while I think no group should be beyond criticism and that includes “protected groups”, I would tend to agree that some of the posts I’ve seen in the past are probably over a line and as such I can understand why people would just say “naw, let’s just not federate that”.

There are lots of good posts on the site even – they cover a lot of stuff we should be talking about such as crony capitalism and corruption, but it doesn’t take many really bad posts gone completely unmanaged and unchallenged to turn an instance into a superfund site, even for reasonably liberal people who want to allow talking about controversial topics.

I think that’s a much better argument than just painting the site and everything and everyone on it with a broad brush. “There’s specific stuff on that site that they find acceptable but we don’t and there’s been instances where the users there brought their unacceptable stuff into the other communities so we don’t want to federate with them to maintain our own community standards” is difficult to argue with. It’s a well-reasoned point that shows everyone is thinking for themselves which is all I ask.

And yeah, I saw OP was from beehaw afterward and realized that they were probably around a bit before all this.

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13 points

You’re reading a lot into what I’m saying stuff that I’m not saying

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5 points

Nah it’s just we don’t like racists and fascists. It’s not complicated.

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Preach Brother

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I appreciate this. ✊

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lemmy.world already defederated them, and gave explanation here: https://lemmy.world/post/747912

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I think this post is for lemmy.one

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Yes, I posted this to give info about another instance’s decision and especially their reasoning for doing so, since it seemed applicable here.

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Agree, that place is a cess pit of absolute trash

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I just looked through and that whole community looks like /r/terriblefacebookmemes, but they’re serious

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