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18 points

I hope you all have a nice week :D

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YES!

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8 points

Back atcha

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19 points

Got invited to carting on the weekend. Can’t stop thinking that it would be one of the things to go in the case of the worldwide socialist revolution. Due to pollution and all

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12 points

Electric carts go brrrrrrrrr

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4 points

They’d have to be ground effect based or something as well, because of the tires and flooring

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3 points

What’s wrong with the tires and flooring?

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They can be redesigned to be less ecologically harming, I’m not an expert on go karts or pollution, but I think the issues can be in the tracks and how much space they take for an entertainement, which could perhaps be fixed by making the track a park when it’s not being used, modifying the vehicles and the road surface, like by looking at the image here there’s a lot of unnecessary stuff

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16 points

That seems rather efficient in terms of space. Making race tracks of any kind multi use is tricky. At least with full size tracks (think 5km road length or so) park area can definitely be made in and around, but cart tracks are pretty compact. In that image I don’t see anything that can be cut out while maintaining safety and functionality. Some races also use temporary road circuits but that brings in other issues from the massive effort required to set up and take down for just one event per year.

I think the primary pollutants from car racing in general are exhaust and micro-plastics (rubber from the tyres wears off on the road and gets into the environment). Both can certainly be mitigated.

Even so, I wonder to what extent we’ll allow polluting activity on a small scale for hobbies and entertainment. Of course polluting just for fun isn’t necessary (fireworks for example) but amateur/hobby sports definitely have a place in a socialist society.

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10 points

If we banned cars and introduced free public transport, go-karters could have the roads practically to themselves without needing bespoke racing tracks that only have one use. There might be pedestrians and cyclists but the cyclists are used to it because of cars and pedestrians are slow, so easily avoided.

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12 points

They could also develop electric go-karts as well. They don’t need to be powered by fossil fuels. My local go-kart place is just inside a big warehouse and they just move tires around to make differently shaped tracks, that could certainly be an option for it rather than building a whole dedicated racetrack.

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this already exists

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Nah, f1 can hit the bricks. A little put put engine that runs on a thimble of high test fuel but still feels like you are wrestling a cheetah is perfect. Picture one of those little beasts with a tiny electric motor several of your drunkest comrades. That is what Stalin fought for.

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2 points

Well said

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10 points

Does Lemmygrad have an official statement on third worldists? Are they considered more as Ultras or Reactionaries?

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14 points

Don’t know of an official statement. My personal opinion: I don’t see how they would be reactionaries. And I think the ultra tendencies are fairly clear to see.

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8 points

Have had recent interactions with some and they tend to be pretty backward in their views on queer people, buying into the idea of it being part of some western agenda to “subvert” culture in the global south.

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9 points

That’s not what i typically think of when i think of third worldists, but yeah those are reactionary views. However i’m not sure that is sufficient to qualify an individual as a reactionary, let alone a whole ideological group. If that were the case then a lot of Marxist-Leninists would be reactionary too. People with progressive ideologies can hold reactionary views on some issues. People are complicated and such contradictions are very common.

The point i’m trying to make is that views such as the ones you described may be held by some individual third worldists, but these views are not integral or essential or a logical conclusion of the third worldist ideological outlook. Their ideological framework has ultra characteristics but not reactionary ones. At least as far as i can tell.

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Two choices: >colonizers who pretend to not hate queers >anti colonizers who hate queers, They’re misguided

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18 points

Yea they are led astray into these reactionary views, as someone from the global south i kinda get why these people tend to be “class reductionists”, our material conditions are much much worse than in the imperial core.

it is infuriating when international companies that have exploited our countries for decades hijack the queer movement and move the conversation away from class to identity politics, this of course does not justify hatred against anyone but i think it is one of the reasons why people are led to this. Its very similar to how conservatives in america do it.

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16 points

Hello Comrades, I just discovered !the_dunk_tank@hexbear.net . What is this community anyway ? Is this just Shitreactionariessay but for hexbear… or im missing something…

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yeah, AFAIK it’s pretty much SRS for Hexbear, although it’s not NSFW by default

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26 points

There’s a thread about the DPRK playing their first match in four years on r/soccer and it’s… somewhat positive? Like, some people are calling out the blatant idiotic statements even. What is happening?

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21 points

Outrage machine is more focused on Russia at the moment, libs can only really believe bullshit when its being blasted at them non stop every day

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That is one of the things that makes me a little hopeful tbh. They can only really focus on the “villain of the week” and so kind of forget that they are supposed to be hateful to other nations as well unless they are constantly reminded. Once that propaganda tap is shut off, the people will stop blindly hating so much, hopefully.

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It doesn’t really exist for most people. I think the majority have moved on from Russia if they were really paying attention at all and only those who have the free time and luxury to be online for close to 12 hours a day give a shit.

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Lol that subreddit is something else. I remember it going full masks off during the world cup, when Argentina beat croatia and france.

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4 points

That must’ve been a crowded pitch.

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Wow that’s so weird. How does that happen? Normally such an extreme reactionary place.

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9 points

Yea I haven’t been on Reddit in a long while, but I remember them being mostly ok with monarchy

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12 points

I need a DPRK soccer jersey, I’m addicted to soccer jerseys lol such an underrated clothing item

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I want a dprk soccer jersey

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