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Waaaaaaay better privacy, faster than chrome, don’t need to worry about them killing mandatory add ons so they can push ads, also the add ons just work better but maybe that’s confirmation bias.

I’m sure there’s more I’m forgetting

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It is not really faster than Chrome, but hey, at least I don’t have to manually opt out of monetizing my browsing history and my adblocker still works.

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55 points

not really faster than Chrome

Its also not really slower. If you are blocking plugins, it can be faster.

Its fast enough I think is the broader point.

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It’s a weird pissing contest that still makes people angry for no reason, is what it is.

It’s not the 90s, you’re not trying to parse a bunch of tables on a creaking chunk of barely cooked sand. You’re basically running standalone software through your browser anyway.

Honestly, the one performance thing that bothers me on any modern browser is that some extension in my stack somewhere is memory leaking and makes me restart Firefox to restore performance every few hours. Can’t tell which one, but I need all of them, so hey, frequent reboots it is.

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Firefox actually has surpassed Chrome recently in benchmarks

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It is not really faster than Chrome

It is if I close my eyes and stick my fingers in my ears.

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LOL

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Sadly not everywhere. On mobile it lacks behind. Even more on video content and low power cpus.

Chromium is slightly better in a way where I could clic on the video buttons without lag : On my android TV, (sideloaded) Firefox had issues with video buttons. So I tried using kiwi browser (for the extension support), and it worked well for buttons. The video wasn’t a lot smoother, but it just seemed maybe just slightly better.

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When you say video, do you mean YouTube and on other Google sites? Not sure if you knew this, but Google has proprietary shit on their websites that enables special features just for Chrome. Even if Firefox wanted to implement those features, Google wouldn’t let Firefox use them.

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I can confirm that Firefox is terrible on Android.

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Used Firefox android for at least a long arse time now. I can’t remember any issues. Other than one site, but that works perfectly in duckduckgo browser.

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Sorry to hijack, but can anyone help me with my issue?

I’m using librewolf and since about a week or two I noticed a speed issue. Overall my internet is fast, way faster then I need in fact, but websites load at a unreasonably slow speed.

When opening anything librewolf just sits there loading for a few second (probably up to ~10) then page opens fine. Video playback works great too. What could be the issue?

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Could be DNS?

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Nah, it can’t possibly be DNS…

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It’s almost never DNS, except when it is.

Try setting your DNS to adguards default servers and see if that helps.

Those addresses are 94.140.14.14 and 94.140.15.15.

If you don’t want to do that you could always set it to 1.1.1.1 but adguards DNS servers also help filter ads so that’s nice.

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I don’t know. If I use chrome on the same device there are no issues. You can’t be certain but I think it’s not DNS.

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Do you use many addons? Resetting everything to stock and reinstalling addons one by one is my go-to as occasionally your profile is the issue. Just backup your profile beforehand and there’s 0 loss, aside from like 20 minutes.

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155 points

Mobile adblock

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I don’t use it because of mobile adblock only. There are multiple private chromium browsers which have mobile adblock, and also one supporting extensions : kiwi browser.

I use Firefox because it’s a competing engine to chromium, and it looks good.

I also have all the synced bookmarks from my PC Firefox, which I use for the same reason, and because I got used to it.

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I normally don’t jump on bandwagons, but this is the way. After using ublock on firefox on my phone, it was an easy decision to switch from chrome to firefox (librewolf) on my computer too (so everything would sync lol)

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Because it’s the only browser not based on Google’s Chromium rendering engine (Webview, WebKit? whatever). Using any other browser supports Google’s monopoly over how we browse the internet and what we are allowed to see. No, fuck Google.

Edit: spelling

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I just wanna add that one reason this monopoly is dangerous is that Google (could and nowadays) does use it to dictate “web standards”. So e.g. they don’t come anymore from organizations that develop standards but Google just forces their own standards by sheer power of market dominance.

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Yes! I failed to dive deeper, but you expressed it well. They have already planned to remove the option to have ad-blockers in Chrome… what will come next?

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Technically, WebKit is Apple’s rendering engine (Safari).

Google uses Blink, which is a fork of WebKit, but is its own thing now.

So, you can still use Safari without directly contributing to Google’s de facto rendering engine monopoly.

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Thank you, I used to know the rendering engines fairly well a few years ago, but I’m out of the loop now.

What about WebView? It’s the rendering engine used in Android, closely related to Blink I assume.

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I honestly wasn’t super familiar with WebView until you asked!

It looks like WebView is a stripped-down browser, more than anything else. It can leverage different rendering engines depending on the platform, and on Android it looks like it leverages Blink just like Chrome.

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If you’re interested at all:

Google Chrome is a fork of the open source Chromium with several Google proprietary features. Chromium uses the Blink engine. Blink is a fork of a large component of WebKit called WebCore. Apple primarily develops WebKit (and by proxy WebCore), itself being a fork of KHTML and KJS which were actually discontinued this year.

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Thank you, it gets complicated as you dive deeper. Am I right when I think that Chromium, although Open Source, is mainly developed by Google and therefore follows Google’s agenda?

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As of 2020, Chromium was made more permissive in accepting additional code. Before this, Chromium rejected a lot of outside code. Microsoft is now the biggest contributor outside of Google. Samsung, Intel, ARM and Apple are other notable contributors. There are several features found in the code that aren’t used by Google at all. Chrome is 100% Google’s agenda. Chromium does include Google services that Google rejects the removal of. Of course Google would rather you use them. Microsoft just removes them. As do others. But the features others have submitted to the Chromium code are of course used in their forks and possibly others. I would say Chromium is less of Google’s agenda than it used to be. As it’s not entirely neutral, there is still Google influence behind it.

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Because it’s not Chrome

Because it’s open source

Because I can get it on all my devices

Because I like the work Mozilla does

Because it’s private and secure by default

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Cause fuck Google

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I was going to say that lol

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We can say it together!

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Fuck Google.

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