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I’ll never understand the drive to make other people’s lives more miserable. We’re given only so many years in this planet. Why not enjoy your life and let others enjoy theirs. These people seemingly can’t do either of those.

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I guess it’s a good coping mechanism to not face your own problems. Also you always have something to do and you feel involved.

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I do think it gives them a bigger narrative to be a part of. I suspect that’s a big draw too. It’s just a really shit narrative.

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Good point. I think one thing modern world (maybe it was always this way) is kind of lacking providing people with meaning. Sure you are free to search and create your own, which is undoubtfully great. But some people need others people stories to make any sense of that mess we call life.

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10 points

“good”

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It’s not about that… I don’t know why it’s so hard to understand the psychology here. They feel strongly that something is wrong and want to fight it. That’s it.

Again, not supporting it at all but you should at least understand that they are not so different from us. They just grew up around hate for these things and continue to feel hate for these things.

If they would have grown up in a different environment, I don’t think they would even care about any of this.

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7 points

Sure there are people who were just socialised into far right ideology, but there are also ones that arrived there later in life. Humans are complex. psychology ist messy and not very well understood. But feeling deeply unhappy and projecting on an out-group, are definitely something they all have in common.

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I think it’s much simpler than that. People who feel inadequate look for outside forces to blame.

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24 points

They carry so much hate inside that it rises up and makes them ugly on the outside. Just look at all of those Neo-Nazis who would never meet the criteria for being Aryan.

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11 points

Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate…

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8 points

People often do it for free, but it is also a business model.

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6 points

Imagine being such a failure as a human being that they drag others down the hole they’ve stubbornly dug for themselves.

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5 points

I have no clue other than it provides a convenient excuse to justify their obstructionist ideals.

If conservatives had it their way, the U.S. would still be just a British colony.

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I’m not defending them but have you never had a strong conviction that something is wrong and you will do what you can to fight it?

That’s how these people feel about gay people and so on. I can only assume they grew up around people who felt that way and they don’t see the error of their ways.

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They are not “flocking to Threads”, they were already in Instagram and Facebook. Meta is going to have to pay one day or another for cowering in front of religious countries by allowing homophobia and anti-atheist and anti-freethinker hate-speech in those countries. I had to deal a lot with those and reporting them did nothing, because moderators are sourced locally from those countries, and the laws in those countries are in favor of that kind of hate-speech.

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9 points

I know exactly what you mean

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7 points

This is the answer: they were already there to begin with

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Well, to be fair, I have managed to get some lunatics removed from some local UK communities on Facebook. Granted, these are UK communities, but still, there were a lot of lunatics at some point during pandemic. All the crap suddenly started posting all kinds of non sense from blatant racism to conspiracy theories.

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Try learning some Arabic or Hebrew, moderators for content in those languages are mostly sourced from the MENA region where the notion of hate-speech is quite distorted and homophobia and hate-speech directed towards nonbelievers are considered normal. Reporting hate-speech in those languages almost never leads to removals. This is not just anecdotal, it’s really a thing: https://www.politico.eu/article/facebook-content-moderation-posts-wars-afghanistan-middle-east-arabic/

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4 points

That’s been my experience as well. Reporting them does nothing, but if you call them out on their BS, Facebook suspends you.

As long as hate drives engagement, this will never change.

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51 points

A lot of people are flocking to Threads, so why wouldn’t these groups?

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35 points

I was hoping they would just enjoy Elon’s twitter but apparently they really need to pollute the common spaces otherwise they get bored

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23 points

They’ll go anywhere they can get attention I suppose

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Yup, Nazis don’t want a circle jerk chamber. They specifically want to get into general public spaces so they can recruit. This is why you often find Nazi shit in the weirdest places (such as the bronies).

It’s why moderation is needed on all social media platforms. It’s also why “we don’t tolerate Nazis” needs to be a general rule. They are a cancer.

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Exactly. It’ll happen with any platform that gains traction. I’m even seeing some fringe groups appearing in some niche Lemmy instances, too. People are going to go to wherever other people are.

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33 points

As if we needed one more reason to defederate.

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” He went on to instruct his followers to “try and build a big account. I mean, if you get in early, maybe some of you guys can blow up and red pill some people on there.”

Red pill? Did pro-authoritarian, white supremacist, and self-proclaimed incel, Nick Fuentes unironically use “red pill”? lmao What a clown.

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I don’t understand why these incels insist on using a Matrix analogy, red-pill just means “truth” and blue-pill means “ignorance”, why do they constantly subvert a basic concept? It’s literally the same with “woke”, it literally just means what it says, “being attuned to what’s going on”. Nothing more, but these idiots literally ruin it, if anything they’re blue-pilled, going by the Matrix

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The Matrix is also queer af and full of anti-fascist themes. So these incel guys are really barking up the wrong tree in so many ways

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12 points

They quote the Bible without understanding it either, not surprising they’d do it with a movie.

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Red pill/blue pill was written as an analogy to the experience of trans people, as well. The ignorance with how they’ve co-opted the concept runs quite deep.

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This is literally 1984’s double thinking: the people accusing other people of being woke and defining themselves as red-pilled (woken up to a reality) are in turn the most ignorant. They are accusing their enemy of having reached a state of mind they themselves claim to have reached, while they actually did not. Totally paradoxical.

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