Noise-canceling robots to ‘mute’ loud conversations in cafe | What if we told you that we can actually silence a noisy table right next to us in a café?::undefined
I’ve always thought phase cancellation technology could potentially be crazy revolutionary. Seems these guys know what they’re doing, but the real challenges come with high decibel levels if I remember right.
If you tried to phase cancel out the sound of a jet engine, it would work and you wouldn’t hear it, but you could also have easily just burst your eardrums too, because the sound pressure level is still present, even if the actual sound is inaudible. It’s a crazy phenomena.
Edit: the sound pressure level IS cancelled out by destructive wave interference, but if this is knocked even by a matter of milliseconds, the wave is doubled and that’s not good for anyone.
Also, on retrospect, phenomena was poor word choice. It’s physics.
Wait, what? Doesn’t phase cancellation actually cancel the waves? How can it be inaudible but still present?
The waves are canceled (i.e. gone) until something goes wrong. You could end up accidentally causing constructive interference, in which case you my double the sound’s amplitude.
Thankfully double would only be 3db, and 10db is about a doubling by our perception?
I feel like this doesn’t happen very often though. I mean I wear sound canceling headphones all the time and I’ve never noticed it accidentally making anything louder. Then again, I don’t normally stand near jet engines.
Yes, sorry, I didn’t phrase that well at all. The sound pressure is actually cancelled out, but with the hypothetical example of the jet engine, anything going wrong could double the dB level instead of cancelling, and because we’re talking milliseconds difference, it would be quite easy to go wrong in this sense.
It can’t double the dBs. It will only add 3 as dBs are a log scale and +/-3dBs is double/half.
Besides what you mention, I have my reservations about ‘crazy revolutionary’. If I remember correctly, noise cancelling only works in one very concentrated spot where the waves are measured and cancelled out. If you move a couple of inches, the cancellation isn’t perfect anymore and does practically nothing. That’s why ANC headphones work well (always right by your ear) but any other open application seems implausible to me.
Wouldn’t this system cause more noise for people on other tables around you?
What if we told you that we can actually silence a noisy table right next to us in a café?
I’d say we almost certainly have different definitions of what ‘silence’ means.
They’re going to use that technology to spy us isn’t?
Given that noise cancellation thus far as involved multiple microphones to identify background noise - yes
Why does every cool innovation have to have an immediately applicable shitty implication 😭
Eh, everything can be used shitty, but it’s often more work to use a cool thing shitty than it is to just be shitty.
Like you could do this, or you can put a cheap directional mic in the ceiling where it has free access to power.
Being able to beat someone to death with a defibrillator doesn’t undermine it’s value as a life saving tool.
I was going to say, wouldn’t this require recording of literally every noise around you in order to cancel it out?
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As an autistic person this technology could actually allow me to access the community without being overwhelmed. This is revolutionary and would change my life.
