Hey guys,

after looking into selfhosting email it seems to me that it’s probably better if I use an existing email hoster like Namecheap or Porkbun.

Now I saw that Porkbun doesn’t offer catchall emails so I can’t use it for my usecase.

Do you guys have any recommendations for a reasonably priced email hoster for a custom domain that offers all basic features like catchall? The purpose is for one domain I use for my personal stuff and one for a small side hustle/ small business.

Thanks so much in advance for your help!

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ProtonMail has been my go to, really fantastic service, you get simplelogin as well and can add custom domains up to 10 iirc. And the VPN is top tier too.

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I used to self host email and got sick of my emails never getting through. Email is federated in theory, but pretty centralized in practice. Paying for Proton was definitely worth it.

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Someone shared this post about ProtonMail the other day and thought I should share here as well.

http://jfloren.net/b/2023/7/7/0

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An interesting read - thanks for sharing.

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After reading that post and the linked github issues, with the latest updates and comments from the last 24 hours. Here’s the TL;DR:

  • This is only relevant if you want to use an email client with Proton Bridge.
  • If you’re just using Proton for encryption and signing (you can use the same PGP outside of proton too) then there is no issue at all.
  • If you want an external tool (like a hardware yubikey) to decrypt your messages that someone else has sent to you using the public key that corresponds to the external tool there will be signature validation shenanigans. This is because Proton expects to be the only entity doing any encryption.This is an important issue for those that need to send encrypted emails (and signatures) with specific keys.
  • It is not an issue for anyone using Proton email for a secure email service even if they want to use an external email client on desktop (like Thunderbird) with Proton Bridge.

Please correct me if I missed something.

CC: @howlingecko@sh.itjust.works

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How good is spam detection on ProtonMail? Especially compared to some of the big players like GMail?

Edit: I moved my primary email address to ProtonMail. Spam-Filtering is simply not good. About 50% get through just fine, even if it’s very easily identifiable as Spam / Phishing. I love everything else about ProtonMail but Spam-Filtering is simply not good despite relatively positive reviews I found about it.

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Pretty damn good. I switched from Gmail, which afaik is amongst the best.

I hosted email professionally and for myself both, from the old days writing send mail rules in vi to turnkey shit. Absolute not worth the substantial hassle. Doesn’t scale small. The auth and security stuff is a PITA, then you find one thing was wrong and other domains were silently dropping all your mail, never delivered. Ugh. Protonmail it is.

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I have Protonmail rolled together with AnonAddy and that gives me all the aliases I could ever want.

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I recommend fastmail.com though they do have done shortcomings that you need to consider such as the fact that they’re based in Australia (five eyes country) and have servers in the USA. Their advantage is a slick interface, fantastic app based on JMAP, and just generally being super convenient. They allow catch all addresses, masked emails, custom domain etc. I find them super convenient.

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Another upvote or seven for fastmail.com - I spent a little too much time spinning my personal domain hosting through Fastmail, Tutanota, Proton, mailbox.org… and then came back full circle to Fastmail.

Their shortcomings, if you’re concerned about privacy, are listed right above^^^ but I don’t think you can find a better email hosting provider for the pricing.

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Email isn’t that secure anyway (don’t use email if your life or freedom depends on it), so I don’t see that as much as a downside.

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Proton and fastmail you can use custom domains. I only have experience using fastmail. They provide great instructions for the settings in cloudflare (mx records, etc). My domain is purchased through namecheap.

I can receive mail on *@mydomain.com and I can send email from any thing I want ad-hoc (anything@mydomain.com or anything@anything.mydomain.com)

I thought about selfhosting as well, but the internet concensus was it can be a hassle with your email getting rejected.

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I’ve been very happy with mxroute for quite a few years now. They have a summer deal going on for $40 a year for unlimited domains and accounts, you’re only limited by storage (100GB) and outgoing emails per hour.
t would be helpful to know what you consider basic features you want the host to support, but catchall works.

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I self-host my main email account, but use MXRoute as an outbound relay. Works great.

I do have some email accounts that use MXRoute. The Crossbox webmail system they use is very good.

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Same here, very happy about mxroute, they even have a plan where you pay once for lifetime account.

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How good is mxroute at blocking spam correctly?

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+1 for mxroute. Happy customer since last black Friday. No fuss and just works (after reading the how-to). Also spam detection is good.

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