Written by DrNeurohax
"Some Thoughts on Ways Mods Can Stay in Malicious Compliance, in Order To Prolong the Protest and Their Removal by Admins.
r/funny should be proud. They sat in the crosshairs for longer than anyone thought they would. I hope they, and all the other subs pressured into going restricted or public, continue to show their support in some unique way. Some ideas:
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Include kbin/lemmy equivalent magazines in the banner and a sticky post. Sticky an autocomment on every post with fediverse info.
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Only use the standard mod tools and halve your time commitment. “We went back to using the tools they gave us and this is how it will be from now on. Welcome to the new Reddit you guys chose by not supporting the blackout!”
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Mark the sub NSFW. Realistically, there’s rarely a reason anyone in an office should be on Reddit. This should also make the sub unavailable for mobile users when the API changes go into effect.
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Make every day April Fool’s Day. Like when r/DataIsBeautiful posted nothing but pics of Star Trek’s Data. If you have no ideas, just google the sub name and see what you find!
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- a type of long catheter that is inserted through a peripheral vein, often in the arm, into a larger vein in the body, used when intravenous treatment is required over a long period. Seems like an important topic for r/Pics to cover. (Dictionary.com)
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- Slang abbreviation for Partner In Crime, so maybe change focus to famous crime duos (Urban Dictionary)
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- Slang for a movie, so become the movie subreddit (Encyclopedia Britannica)
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- Just go nuts with https://www.abbreviations.com/pic
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Set unreasonable posting requirements without an announcement, but noting the change in the side bar. Gotta read the fine print."
Set posts to require moderator approval.
- Approve 1 post every hour or only approve really poor quality ones.
Fracture the community.
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Announce alternative subs for your topic, which you also control, and encourage unsubbing from the original sub. Do some of the above, while also setting the sub to require accounts be subscribed for a month to post. Those that leave will find nothing in the alt subs, which they can’t post to, and be unable to post on the main sub for a month. Also, fracturing the large subs will reduce traffic overall, due to the chaos.
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Remove and replace scrub mods where possible. If you get booted down the line, another supporter can continue the pattern.
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Forward any post remotely related to a product advertised on Reddit to that company’s media contact for approval. Advertisers should know what is being associated with their brands. (And if some really gnarly stuff gets submitted by some non-mod account, it might be more impactful."
We must fight back. Spread the word.
The whole problem with reddit (aside from the people who run it) is the amount of negative energy that comes out there. If that’s all you have, wonderful, unleash it there… it will help to hasten the end. But in trying to celebrate the death of one thing, you’ll miss opportunities for spreading good vibes here and enjoying the birth of something new. It’s a buzzkill to have a new community sprout up and have everyone obsessed with killing the old one. Think about the type of energy you give to the world, you will get the same in return.
That’s the standard cycle when it comes to these migrations.
- People get angry with the old platform.
- People find or make a new platform.
- People bitch about the old platform on the new platform.
- People either go back to the old platform or stay on the new one and forget about the old one.
It’s interesting watching all the people here that… this is clearly their first time experiencing this cycle.
It might not even be the first time. They just forgot about why they ever left MySpace and that they ever tried Gab.
The amount of extra energy folks have for this is crazy. By all means, leave while making a statement, even if that statement is profanity laced. But that site is tearing itself apart just fine on its own, no assistance needed. When you start agitating on a platform that isn’t yours (and let’s be real, Reddit communities haven’t been user owned in a long time, you turn in to the asshole. Reddit may fail, may learn its lesson, or may slowly mutate into something radically different from what it is, but pour all your energy into a creative pursuit. Destruction is fun, but ultimately not very rewarding. Just my perspective.
I think spreading a bit of positivity on reddit with the occasional post about lemmy and the decentralised nature of all this will attract some people and things can grow organically. At the end of the month I’ll stay here and leave reddit be. Reddit will either wither or carry on and change from what it’s been.
i made a nice, positive and neutral post abt my mag @SilentHill kbin on r/silenthill recently. didnt take, but it was worth a shot
I’ll be frank, most of these ideas are childish and will result in mod removal quicker than you can say “malicious compliance”. Just keep the blackout, or maybe make posts require mod approval and set the automod reply message.
Or just silently purge all of the subreddit’s content behind the cloak of the blackout before stepping down permanently or even outright deleting the subreddit.
If a user deletes their own content though, legal barriers arise to restoring that from backup (against the user’s explicit will)
Won’t accomplish anything - mods can’t delete the content itself, just remove the listing from public display. All that has to happen is run a script reversing post removals by [moderator XYZ] between [time period] and the sub is restored; IIRC they’ve used similar tools, or methods, in the past when a mod has gone rogue and tried to kill a community with the same methodology.
You can’t just keep private anymore. Reddit admins and the reddit ceo have both said they’re no longer interested in maintaining a community run website. They can and will begin taking over subs and making them admin run. They’re going to have to rely heavily on bots for moderation, which will obviously result in massively deteriorated quality for a significant portion of the website.
The end result is reddit rebranding itself entirely. Maybe eventually they’ll do away entirely with community controlled subreddits, and instead maintain only the most popular ones. I don’t trust a single thing they say anymore, but their actions show they’re committed to morphing reddit into a newer corporate-centric social media. They will naturally shift to a model of scraping and selling user data to make up for what will inevitably be a massive decline in profits.
True that. But there are likely quieter versions of this which mods could enact, if they wanted to slowly undermine a sub. Not necessarily advocating for this approach, though malicious compliance can have its place — and certainly not the pieces of getting people to join the fediverse by spamming Reddit. Maybe it heightens awareness of the fediverse; but not sure it sets the right tone nor ultimately serves this whole venture.
Just being a shitty mod would do a lot on a wide scale. Use only the official tools. Have a timer on your phone for how much time you will put into moderation per day. Lax up on rules. Disable all 3rd party mod tools.
It’s what’s going to happen either way, once the end of the month rolls around.
I agree. I wonder if they’ll still be in trouble even if they open but require mod approval to post. Based on the first option the OP listed, they just want people to spam reddit for kbin/lemmy which is pretty cringe. There are a lot of options/alternatives out there which if people want to know about they should be shown most/all of them, instead of just one.
Yup, just a friendly reminder highlighting alternatives (fedi or otherwise) would suffice. Which can be done through a pinned reply by automoderator.
Ruining user’s experience yourself just makes them hate you specifically. Kind of how titanfall players hate the DDOS attackers more than EA now.
At this point if the users want to continue using Reddit, that’s their choice and I don’t think holding a subreddit hostage is gonna help. I like the non-intrusive suggestions such as promoting alternatives. The users ultimately decide whether the platform survives. I’m staying on kbin because I don’t like the direction Reddit is (has been) going, I’m just glad this whole situation enlightened me to good alternatives. This is just one more step in the wrong direction and people will continue to leave if they continue to make the user experience worse.
This guy fucks!
They really need to disable and stop all moderation. Maybe even create their own spam bots.