Please stop reporting all OF models as spam. If a post is off-topic, report is as off-topic. If community rules forbid OF models from posting, report that. If a user is flooding a sub with multiple posts a day in a row, that’s a legit report as well.

Otherwise a post by an OF model is not in and of itself spam, even if it is made by a <ferengi>female</ferengi> with the temerity to control her own sexuality.

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It’s just spam though. It’s literally advertising of services.

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Spam is irrelevant or inappropriate messages sent on the internet to a large number of recipients.

Their content is appropriate and relevant to the sub. It doesn’t matter if it helps them put food on the table. People are trying to get a nut off, not shame people based on their occupation.

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Right advertising != spam. IMO the community should get to decide if it allows any kind of advertising. Unsolicited, selective, none, whatever. Reports to admin should only be when it’s clearly mass spamming.

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The sub is for titties they are posting titties. If they happen to be saying hey you can pay to see more titties who gives a shit.

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Spam doesn’t have titties

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Lots of subs have titties posted. They also have tons of white nationalist bullshit. must be ok

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I’m pretty sure this is the dumbest thing ever posted to this instance. I’ll grant you that we’re only a month old, but I don’t see it losing the championship belt any time soon.

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…what

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Lol seeing posts to /r/freckedgirls of girls without freckles because it’s a bot spamming to all nsfw subs. But keep enjoying the spam lol

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But that’s a report because the content doesn’t fit the community. Whether they have an OF or not is completely irrelevant in that case, and saying in the reason that that’s why you’re reporting it will get it ignored instead of fixed.

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I’m gonna be really blunt here, idk how it’ll be received, but: without women who are paid to be naked, there will be very, very little content in OC porn communities.

I just see so many people on Reddit claim to only love “true amateur” content, but that content almost always gets hugely downvoted or goes unnoticed on the big subreddits. I think it’s because people who don’t profit from their stuff aren’t always trying to make content with the widest appeal possible. They don’t tend to care as much about being perfectly lit up so every nipple detail is visble. Or about getting the pose just right. Many won’t want to show their face. You’d think the clearly true amateur stuff would be more celebrated, but it seems people want to see women make huge amounts of pro-level content just for funsies. That’s not really realistic.

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I’ve noticed that when people say they love amateur content, they really mean they love professional level content that they don’t have to pay for

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without women who are paid to be naked, there will be very, very little content in OC porn communities.

Hear hear, why don’t people get this?

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Why do you assume all this shit is worth getting some cringy amateur content? I don’t even like amateur content when it’s interactive. Those thots can go make videos and sell them on their whatever site, but they shouldn’t talk to me like I’m stupid and thirsty, and they should stay the fuck out of my communities!

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Re-read the original comment. Everyone on this thread is talking about OC (aka interactive amateur) communities. If you don’t like that, don’t go to OC communities. Also, you seem kinda unpleasant in general

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Edit: r/bigonewild banned OF posters and it turned into such a sausagefest that they changed their description to make it into a stated bi male centric community.

do you think that could be because the women were just lying about being bi so they had more opportunities to advertise their OF? I think that’s kind of a huge point in support of banning OF ads

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sorry for the late reply. I understand your point, but it still illustrates how little contribution an OC community will see from true amateur women with rules like that in place. communities will simply need to decide between allowing men and still having a relatively healthy amount of posts (but they will be mostly of penises), or disallowing men and just not having a lot of content. the choice was easy for r/bigonewild because it was already a space for people who like men. I’d say r/gonewild is a notable exception, but it’s also got a massive viewership that many people will leverage to build an audience before posting their paid links on profile and then receiving a ban. not that there are no unpaid women on that subreddit, there are, but that’s a factor.

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Back when amateur content was popular on reddit it actually went well… I actually think the prominence of OF posters has put off the original amateurs.

I think if it’s done well both can co-exist with care and attention to rules. A pro OF community can permit OF advertisers if they want. But while having overt OF spam might add content, it will at the same time drive viewers away.

Also suggesting people that don’t want to be advertised to are anti sex work is stupid, and the few fools who have said as much are really just stupid.

I don’t like ads, any ads, and yet i still support businesses that advertise.

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Well said.

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The people who like popular porn don’t really go around announcing that they love professional-grade porn. They only do so when talking about the ethical consumption of porn, and their focus is on supporting people for their work, not the appreciation for the high quality or enjoying the financial transaction.

Announcing you like amateur porn is a statement about the flavor of porn you like, and it’s pretty clearly a minority opinion, given what we see reach the tops of the porn forums.

I pretty much only like amateur porn. But you know what? I’m not going to stop anyone else from enjoying the kind of porn they like. Why should I? If you like professional porn, great! If you don’t, that’s okay too. Neither side should judge the other so long as they’re not promoting harmful behavior of one type or another. There’s nothing wrong with making a living by getting naked, there’s nothing wrong with doing it for fun!

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I dunno. Maybe I’m just being the salty OF girl, but it doesn’t seem like anyone at all (on Reddit, not here) is willing to do anything besides grumble about advertisement when the subject comes up. I see mods of nsfw subreddits get downvoted to hell when they say they won’t be banning Onlyfans users from posting, followed by tons of upvoted “where are the reeeeal women?” comments. The complaint comments get upvoted more than actual, perfectly good content posted by regular women. I just wish they’d be a little more supportive when those women do post, I suppose.

That being said, I totally agree that people should watch and make porn for whatever reason they please!!

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I agree. Whether someone is “pro” or doing it because, the attitude should be supportive. Otherwise, the content will be shitty. It will only be dudes reposting weird as stock photos or stolen non consensual content.

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The thing is, my ad block works on stated ads, but it doesn’t work on the subliminal ones such as OF.

All the power in the world to you for doing what you do. I have nothing against it. (I mean, I’m against capitalism in general, but you clearly own the capital in this situation). There should be places where OF women/men can post their profiles so people can find them, the problem is the fact that it’s everywhere that used to be more community and amateur based.

I think it’s fair to say that the gonewild subs/communities have been taken over by folks who are always wild, as it’s their profession. You wouldn’t see pornstars posting on gonewild, because they aren’t “going wild” in the sense of the basis of the subs, the old series Girls Gone Wild. The whole point was that it’s regular people (“hot” or otherwise) posting something risque to step out of their shell. That’s why you’d see a lot of cropped faces and such.

What happened is a few people like the one asian woman who’s name I just can’t remember, who were more attractive than most other posters, started doing it a bit more than just as a dirty little secret. It became the main part of their life. It became a job. Then due to her and others like her, people started getting the idea of OF, where anyone can skip the first part and just start selling sex pics/vids.

I’m not blaming her specifically, especially since I don’t remember her name, but there was a definite change in the atmosphere of the gonewilds and by the end of the recent reddit fallout, most of those subs were 98% OF posts. You could click a username and see the same pic, with what had to be auto-generated titles, to as many possible NSFW subreddits they could find.

A big thing now as well is that the non OF posters are more self conscious in general, and might only be trying to post a few selfies a month. When they see what they competition is like (OF posts), they get discouraged. How is anyone supposed to be into them when all they see are these megahotties and yunghungguns all over the place. amateurs don’t have the lighting and cameras to even compete with the lowliest OF posters. You can act like you support the amateurs as a creator yourself, but then you post next to them and try and act surprised? It’s just a basic difference between amateur and professional (even if it’s not corporate) content.

Honestly I think the biggest issue is that OF is a subscription model which forces workers like you into the shitty situation of having to continually make new content and finding new subs. Imho this ends up making the content very quantity over quality, and forces you all into having to advertise aggressively while being unable or unwilling to pursue normal advertising routes.

Just looking at the top cummunities (lmao) here, most are part of the gonewild trope and they’re all filled to the brim with OF posts. again, you can’t go wild if being wild is your job. You’re just wild.

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The people who like popular porn don’t really go around announcing that they love professional-grade porn.

clearly you don’t read the comment sections on pornhub. also you’re ignoring the fact that there’s been SO MANY popular porn stars throughout the past 30+ years. You might not be talking to your relatives or coworkers about your favorite porn star, but there are many many places where people do just that.

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Man if this is the official stance for this sub I’m fucking out. Y’all enjoy your fucking thirst trap ads lol

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But who cares if it’s technically an ad? You still get the porn content you previously wouldn’t get. No one’s forcing you to pay for the extra stuff.

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First because it’s annoying. I sub to things for content, not links to “better content” behind a pay wall.

If I wanted that I’d just go get on OF and never come to places like this.

Second, it’s disingenuous. I just reported another post as an example as to why it’s bad for content. If they can scrape OF subscribers off of here, why would they reveal anything for free? Post a pretty face pic and throw their OF link in so you go spend there.

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Some of us are exhibitionists AND like money lol

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I’ll fap to many things, but 20 identical posts with stupid questions as title because it drives engagement, posted in random subs that it doesn’t even remotely fit in, I won’t fap to! I have my dignity!

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20 identical posts

That was covered as spam and the op said as much.

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This is the correct take. Is it any surprise that OF models generate a lot of nsfw content? Unless the users posting is too frequent, it’s not spam. If a painter links to their webpage on a post where they share their art do we cry spam? Treating their content like spam entirely on the grounds of them being OF models is honestly pretty sex negative. Y’all should support the idea of sex workers having control of their own content.

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Speaking from previous experience on Reddit, the OF models are the posters most likely to start spam posting.

That shouldn’t mean we auto report them here, but it’s behavior to be wary of and worth checking an OF account to make sure they aren’t.

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It’s advertising. I don’t care for advertising. It’s like if all food subs were posts by Kraft, Taco Bell, Lays, Ben & Jerry’s, etc.

If people want to advertise, that’s fine, there are avenues for that. r/gonewild got ruined by being filled to the brim with OF ads. Other communities had to be made to recreate the space that gonewild used to be.

the basis for r/gonewild was a place for REDDITORS to “go wild”, not for women who are paid to do so, to then create a reddit account so they can have a place to advertise their product (their photos and videos) for free.

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They aren’t just advertising though, they are also contributing. A better analogy is food companies going to a food convention and giving out free food. The site would be a lot quieter without their contribution.

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even with the food subs comparison the food companies would be “contributing” too, but with self-serving memes that are really just ads. See twitter for a solid example.

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If gonewild wants to restrict OF posts, that’s fine. Then it becomes a violation of community rules. That’s really a debate for the mods and posters in gonewild. The mere fact that someone has an OF is not grounds for reporting.

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Yes.

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There might be a need to handle the cross-community spammers on an instance or Fediverse wide level though, in particular the ones who post to any porn community with the same title and picture regardless of the picture/title being on topic for that community.

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I moderated a small subreddit. 90% of the posts I removed where OF bot spam, and 100% of obvious botspam was OF bots.

Between that and other platforms being filled with OF ads I can’t say I agree. It needs to be handled on a per-instance basis because once the OF spam infection takes root it’s basically impossible to eliminate regardless of community rules. Once direct posts get under control they move onto cross posting, then replying to top comments. It never ends.

For every one good OF creator that doesn’t spam you get at least 10 who use bots, and the bot users make significantly more money while having to produce less content than the ethical OF creators and that’ll never change. It’s not worth letting them destroy an entire instance just to be fair to the few good actors.

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Yeah, coming from Reddit here as well. I don’t think they understand what’s coming. Which is sad because plenty of us are trying to warn them.

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r/Gonewild has specific rules about no OF posters. To the point that even if your post doesn’t mention OF, but you have one linked in your profile you get banned.

It made GW worse. Not just because OF creators have better, higher quality content that fits that sub, but also because as I pointed out once to them it was a dumb idea to block people who in most cases of OF creators don’t even monetize, or only do custom content. Otherwise the account is free to follow. Which is an important differentiation since diversifying where you post and where people can find you is a major thing.

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How is it worse? It’s back to it’s roots and literally back to the reason for the sub in the first place. You know how many “free” OF pages consist of spam about special videos and offers? I’d say practically every single one.

as far as higher better quality, I’d disagree. There’s something special about seeing someone who you think you could have a chance with. Who could be that quiet coworker down the hall, or a nurse you’ve seen. What if it’s your friend’s hot older sister you always had a crush on? Those women might not have been egirls, or would ever have the time, or money to spend on good lighting and photo editing. They’re regular fucking people, just trying to get off, not get paid.

Wanting to spread your product around to get people to pay for it is called advertising. It’s nothing new.

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I can assure you none of those things is true.

First off, by pushing out OF creators all it did was make it so that an underground network was created on there instead. So the person you were seeing would have no mention of OF but would be a bot account meant to spam you with messages. It also created an issue where we saw so much damn editing of pictures and people posting others content to get around the rules. Hell, half of the posts were basically OF creators who made a second GW dedicated account that didn’t mention it but was designed to funnel views to their main.

Also, in the world of posting online it all becomes advertising. Even if not for money it’s all about putting yourself out there and getting validation, which requires people interacting with your post, which requires you to effectively advertise by posting certain content, doing things at certain times and coming up with fun titles. If you didn’t want advertising and a fair system to see all people then either having one GW account that posts only the content of the sub, or two having a system where everyone posts with the same title. The metrics show dumb titles work and it’s why if you scroll GW for any length of time you’ll notice that the same rehashed titles get used over and over.

Lastly, the people with OF accounts are also regular people, and often just trying to get off as well.

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