65% of U.S. adults say the way the president is elected should be changed so that the winner of the popular vote nationwide wins the presidency.
Pure popular vote = only large population centers matter because most of the people live there, meaning politicians can safely ignore rural areas that provide all of the food to the cities because they don’t matter votes-wise. Terrible idea for a large country that doesn’t (net) import its food. This also ignores the fact that stupid, easily manipulated people are also allowed to vote.
Electoral college = rural areas have a disproportionately large voice as they should, but large cities are now neglected. Rural votes are also easily influenced by bad actors, like how China is trying to buy African votes to have a bigger say in the UN.
Except nowhere is homogeneous. There are red voters that live in cities and there are blue voters that live in small farming towns. Right now they don’t have a voice because they are separated into districts that are overwhelmingly red or blue
but get rid if the College and now suddenly your vote is worth just as much as your neighbors, regardless of where you live.
politicians can safely ignore rural areas that provide all of the food to the cities because they don’t matter votes-wise
They already do. Politicians only focus on swing states, and the cities within those swing states.
They may on occasion visit rural areas, but 9 times out of 10 they are in a city when they are campaigning.
All votes should count equally. Anything less is bullshit.
This could be either a fake or a real ad by those people. It is amazing how hard it is to distinguish parody and real news theses days.
UPDATE: For some unknown reasons, this comment appeared under the wrong article. I’ve seen the “Electoral College” article, but didn’t even open it, so this is not even a case of “postet in the wrong window” or so.
What? Seriously, what? What are you talking about? Who is “they,” the Pew Research Center?
For unknown reasons, my reply appeared under the wrong article. So no, there is no connection of what I said to the topic of “Electoral College”.
The electoral college is good because it stops mob rule from taking over America and doing tyrannies against the minority of wealthy entrepreneurs.
Well of course they do, the electoral college was made specifically so that states with the most population aren’t the ones solely determining the outcome. If you got rid of the EC, the elections would come down to California, Florida, New York, and Texas.
Which ironically, given how Florida and Texas lean, would not “kill the Republican party” as some are claiming here.
You say that it would help Republicans, but the last two times the electoral college went against the popular vote they gave the presidency to Republicans.
I’m not saying it would either help them or hurt them. I think many people totally ignore that fact that if the election rules and law were changed in the United States, then campaign strategies would change too. Both the Democratic and Republican parties have enough resources and power to able to adapt.
there is absolutely no valid argument to do anything that isn’t simply tallying all the votes. because of course that’s how it should work
It makes sense from the perspective of early America, which initially wanted a confederate system.
It doesn’t make sense now that most people consider themselves American first and their state is just the place they currently live.
The EC can work but make it a contest for each electoral vote, and remove the states from the equation entirely. California being safe blue and Texas being safe red don’t matter, each district is counted for one electoral vote, and the states don’t get extra votes anymore.
That just seems like popular vote with extra steps. I’m not sure, but I feel like mathematically there would be no way in which the result of the EC would differ from the popular vote under such a system. I suppose it might still be possible to skew it far enough to shift the outcome using some extreme gerrymandering.
Not a fan of the EC, but this is a bad take imo.
Many democracies don’t have the people directly vote on their leader. Parliamentary systems typically have the people voting for a representative who will then vote for the Prime Minister on their behalf.
Representative Democracy exists for a reason.
