President Joe Biden on Tuesday joined a picket line with striking autoworkers in Michigan, supporting their call for a 40% pay raise and saying they deserve a “lot more” than they are getting.

Biden’s appearance, the first visit by a U.S. president to striking workers in modern history, comes a day before Donald Trump, the Republican front-runner for president, will speak to auto workers in Michigan. The rare back-to-back events highlight the importance of union support in the 2024 presidential election, even though unions represent a tiny fraction of U.S. workers.

Democrat Biden traveled to a Belleville, Michigan, parts distribution center owned by General Motors (GM.N), and joined dozens of picketers outside. “Companies were in trouble, now they’re doing incredibly well. And guess what? You should be doing incredibly well, too,” Biden said through a bullhorn. “Stick with it.”

195 points
*

Biden: “You should get paid more.”

Trump: indicted for 91 crimes and found liable for decades of tax fraud

Michigan Republicans: ¯\(ツ)

permalink
report
reply
91 points

“Both sides are the same!”

permalink
report
parent
reply
-89 points
*

They are when it comes to wages.

The federal minimum wage has been 7 bucks for fifteen years. Both sides have had a total majority with the presidency in that time frame.

Literally the same.

permalink
report
parent
reply
56 points
*

Gdkgzjgzjgzjgz

permalink
report
parent
reply
48 points

Just going to ignore how Biden has asked Congress to legislate a higher minimum wage and issues an executive order requiring a higher minimum wage for Federal contractors?

The Democrats have only controlled Congress and the presidency at the same time for about 4 months in the past 4 decades, beginning in September 2009. Before then… idk it would have been before Reagan. When was the last time the minimum wage increased? 2009.

“Both sides are the same” is a Republican talking point.

permalink
report
parent
reply
35 points
*

Democrats had it for 2 years in the past 20+ years…not the fuckin same. Republicans had it for 14 years. Anything Barack tried to do was shit on for 6 years of his presidency by Congress and his first two years he had he got a lot done, not to mention that he did actually raise the minimum wage for federal workers in 2014 by executive order because that’s the only way anything could get changed when the dumb ass party had control. https://money.cnn.com/2014/02/12/news/economy/obama-executive-order-minimum-wage/index.html

permalink
report
parent
reply
30 points

Whew, good thing we are able to make such broad sweeping generalized comparisons based on a single issue.

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

Our state GOP was totally hijacked by MAGA radicals and now answers to Karamo, who’s an utter nut job and die-hard Trump loyalist.

But they’ve gone so far a lot of moderate Republicans feel alienated and with our new balanced voting districts Democrats will probably secure victory for the foreseeable future. It still will be a tight race, but I would not be surprised if Biden’s margin in 2024 is bigger in Michigan than it was in 2020.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-82 points

Biden had a majority for two years and did jack shit on pay.

Can’t really blame them for being angry.

permalink
report
parent
reply
52 points
*

You can’t pass a minimum wage increase with a 50-50 senate. It’s literally not possible.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-11 points
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply
18 points

A 50-50 split Senate is not a majority, jackass.

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points

I guess that should have been the only focus. All I remember is that before he took office we couldn’t leave our houses and people were dying from COVID like crazy. It’s not Biden’s fault that wages haven’t increased with inflation since before I was born. Sure he could probably do more but I don’t see anyone else jumping up to help in any meaningful way either. No one will even primary him and his major opponent is just litigating things from 3 years ago to save his ego and or freedom. I don’t see anyone else stepping up from a position of power.

permalink
report
parent
reply
36 points

40% = 8.77% a year during 4 years.

permalink
report
reply
10 points

More than reasonable.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-15 points

What?

8.77 x 4 = 40?

Lol.

permalink
report
parent
reply
18 points

Lol indeed. Lack of basic math skills is part of the reason workers get the shaft every time.

Successive raises compound, they don’t multiply.

100 * 1.0877 * 1.0877 * 1.0877 * 1.0877 = 140… There’s your 40% raise.

Or as the math nerds like to put it, 1.0877^4

permalink
report
parent
reply
-6 points

Hmm.

They’d get more money sooner if they just added 10% to what they’re getting paid now every year.

permalink
report
parent
reply
25 points

This could be the start of something good. The 40% number isn’t out of thin air. It is the amount the CEO got his pay raised to . Unions can tie exec raises to worker pay in a way that boards aren’t doing.

permalink
report
reply
8 points

I agree if its done correctly.

Got to be careful about execs getting paid through shares. My CEO gets millions in shares but only gets paid like 120k. This gets reused in certain indexes and pitched as being a decent ratio of executive to drone pay ratios.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

True, but unions as an external force can simply state the exec total pay package rose by 25% in value. “pay us” The problem has been looking to the boards installed by investors to cut their own pay. My hope is boards will cool down on huge exec bonuses if it means they may have to do the same for workers.

permalink
report
parent
reply
14 points

Hopefully he keeps the same message when the executives refuse to make a reasonable offer and “the economy” might suffer again.

permalink
report
reply
11 points

I don’t think it’s as likely that the Feds break this strike like they did with the railroads. Their argument against the rails was that almost every other industry relies on them to move product, while having fewer new cars will only effect the new and used car markets. With however hundreds of millions of usable vehicles that are already out there, this strike doesn’t really have the same opportunity to spill over to the larger economy.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

Well, there are a lot of folks that make parts for those cars. Auto is a pretty large sector, but otherwise… I think I agree.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

I think this would mean more if he actually stood up for the railway workers during their strike.

permalink
report
reply
104 points
*
17 points

Gotta give the president props for that, as well as democrats. Didn’t realize they got that through. I’d like them to keep pushing for a least 12 national sick days for all mid to major companies.

Would love to see some universal protections.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

Didn’t realize they got that through.

As always, Democrats are the WORST at PR.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

Far less than they asked for, and did nothing towards meeting their other major demands such as Precision Scheduled Railroading.

If Biden was incapable or unwilling to force the rail companies to give better terms, he should have stayed out of it.

permalink
report
parent
reply
19 points

Far less than they asked for

Have you ever heard of the word “negotiation”? Why aren’t you talking about how the result was “far less than what the rail companies asked for”?

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Then perhaps they shouldn’t have accepted it and striked as planned? The fact that it wasn’t “enough” for the workers isn’t on the POTUS and doesn’t negate his actions.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-4 points
*

4 days out of the desired 15, and no addressing of the myriad of other issues. Wow, such good. Much work. Good Biden.

permalink
report
parent
reply
45 points
*

Igdyidiydyididy

permalink
report
parent
reply
-30 points

Did he though? His Congress pushed through a bill with a smaller compensation package, 1(one) day of sick time, no removal of advance notice for sick time, none of the OT protections, and no acknowledgement of safety concerns.

permalink
report
parent
reply
28 points
*

It would, absolutely, but it still means a whole lot.

It’s a recognition by a slick, seasoned, career politician in the highest office in his country that the winds are shifting with respect to the labour movement.

Don’t think of this as Biden expressing any deeply held belief. Don’t think of anything he does in those terms. The Democrats in general, and Biden especially, are a mirror that reflects something meaningful about the socio-political environment. Just as Trump and the Republicans are.

He and his team believe that something in that environment has shifted, and that labour is poised to be ok the winning side of that shift.

permalink
report
parent
reply

News

!news@lemmy.world

Create post

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil

Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.

Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.

Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.

Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.

Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.

No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.

If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.

Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.

The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body

For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

Community stats

  • 15K

    Monthly active users

  • 15K

    Posts

  • 392K

    Comments