Performing Nazi salutes has been illegal in Germany and Austria since the end of World War II and is punishable by law with prison time.
This ia huge clickbait sadly. It’s some random small oktoberfest, where some drunken germans maybe doing the Hitler greeting.
I’m not saying it’s okay what they do, but by far not world news. This would be maximum local news if at all.
Well they are also playing “Erika” which is a right wing dog whistle, though maybe not as uncommon in these circles, as outright Nazi salutes
Edit: Also curiously most people, myself included, never find themselves in danger of accidentally heil hitlering even when blackout drunk. Seems to become a more common occurrence in Saxony though.
I wish i could extinguish every trace of fascism in every aspect of reality. I really do. Stupid Nazis are hindering me from enjoying old german folk songs without being judged :(
Well I’m thinking the same, but then I’m not sure where to put this video (ignoring the sound track) on a scale from drunken singing to obvious Nazi salute.
Maybe i don’t know enough about Bierzelt culture. If they were singing Hölle, hölle, hölle or Atemlos, would you notice the (right) arm in the air? The arm movement seems unnatural (if the intention was signing with arms in the air), but this could still sort-of pass as not 100% Heil Hitler.
The band chose the song, for sure, that’s questionable. The event organisers should not allow this to happen. But the guests, should they leave? Sit down quietly and wait for the next song?
I could be in that tent and not recognise the song. Not my kind of music.
I could see people innocently copying the movement of others. It may be a tent full of Nazis, scary, but the video does not proof this.
Maybe i don’t know enough about Bierzelt culture. If they were singing Hölle, hölle, hölle or Atemlos, would you notice the (right) arm in the air?
Did we watch the same video? In the Twitter thread I saw the lady right in front was doing multiple Nazi salutes in a row, very excited about the song. Don’t think there’s any ambiguity what she was doing
Of all the posts on the Internet, why is it this one you take issue with?
Of all the comments on the Internet, why is it this one you take issue with?
Should be easy to catch and jail them, if photos and videos are being taken all over the event.
Germany should learn how Americans were able to catch so many Nazis during the Jan 6th insurrection. 😂
Did you read the article? They think 3 people were making the salute. Suspect that might be hard to prove from pictures alone and a still can be just someone’s arms raised like shown in the stock picture included. This is such a dumb article for clicks and certainly not world News.
Did you watch the video? They clearly did the Hitler salute and violated German law.
It’s not only the Hitler salute, also the nazi song with all in this Tent. The Oktoberfest is an event that attracts a lot of international tourism, but access to the majority of the Bierzelte is reserved for certain groups of high-ranking politicians and industrialists. Given that Bavaria is a Bundesland where the CSU has always reigned and in recent years also the AfD, both far-right and fascist parties, are not so surprised by scenes like these, which are surely not the first time this has happened.
This happens when, in a misunderstood democracy and freedom, to tolerate those who would eliminate these values, when they could, and even given a voice in parliaments. They are a danger that must be eliminated from public life, because, with their populism and lies, they can eliminate all the civil rights and social advances achieved, as happened in 1933. But apparently, little has been learned. It makes no sense to prohibit Nazi symbols, when on the other hand xeno/homophobic and fascist speeches are tolerated in parliament and disseminated in the media.
In Saxony. Unfortunately I’m not even surprised anymore.
That was a disappointing Where’s Waldo the Nazi. Everyone is either clapping or some shit. Waste of time. At least the dude with the roasted chicken for a hat was fun. 1/5 don’t recommend.
Proud neo-nazis or drunk idiots?
If you’re a drunk idiot “jokingly” doing nazi salutes as an adult in Germany, you’re just being a nazi. At best nazi-adjacent.
I think you’re severely underestimating how stupid some people can be without malicious intent. Not that I’m justifying their behavior in any way, but it’s possible they’re just really stupid.
And I think you are underestimating how much of a deeply ingrained taboo the nazi salute is for the typical German. You are right, some people can be very stupid, especially drunk. But no German who has not been in some way socilized among nazis would be stupid enough to ever casually do a nazi salute. You just don’t do it.
The only exception I might allow besides actual nazis are very stupid or drunk (or both) teenagers trying too hard to be edgy. And even then most people would find it hard to believe that they’re not at least right leaning.
@atlasraven31 Possibly drunk proud neo-nazi idiots.
