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because they experienced inflation under Biden that think it was his fault.

yeah, that’s problem all around the world, people are too dumb to understand how two years of covid and ongoing war in europe affects our lives and demand that someone just takes care of it.

so in a year we will get populist pro-russian billionaire prime minister who will just start dropping more inflation money around and tells people “see? i will take care of you!” (while stealing some of these money for himself, of course)

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A big portion of every country is rural

no, big portion of every country is not rural.

also note we are not talking about rural in a sense of geography. we are talking about rural in a sense of what we in europe or us would call living in a medieval conditions.

for example, there is 231 registered cars in china compared to 850 in us.

in 2000, 57% of chinese had access to clean drinking water and toilet. by 2020 that number rose to respectable 92%.

now when these people finally have access to toilet, they will want a car and maybe a roof over their head that is made out of concrete instead of bamboo.

lets see how it will affect their emissions per capita.

China is still largely a manufacturing economy

and will be for some time, before their citizens will get to western living standard, by which time their emissions will be somewhere else than they are today.

They’ve built more rail transit in recent years than the United States has even attempted.

well, united states have 1 km of railways per 1522 people, compared to chinese 8865, so it is easy to see why one of them may be in bigger rush to build more.

here is kinda interesting and unfortunate that according to table historical peek for us was 400k km of tracks in 1917, which is about 100% more than they have now, so, probably thanks to the car culture, they let lot of them rot.

Their EV market share is significantly higher.

yes, they do better here. it is the nature of the beast, if country has almost no cars and is getting richer, it is only logical that some of the new cars will be electrical, compared to country where people already have a car and often not so much disposable income to buy new car when the old one is still working, plus there is of course some inertia.

it is 38% / 23% / 9.5% market share of newly bought cars for china/eu/us.

that also means that 62% of cars sold in china is not electric. and 72% of electricity for these ev cars comes from non-renewable sources.

they are missing about 900 million cars to get to same car penetration as us. so lets wait until they get there and see what it does with their emissions 😂

Seems the only thing you learned in school is blind nationalism

of course. because why else would someone disagree with your genius? i am not an american, as you probably think, you clown.

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True I should thank you for teaching me that per capita statistics are useless for comparing nations.

any single piece of statistic presented without context can be used to manipulate, as you did in this case, knowingly or not.

when you have big part of country that is rural and don’t participate in generating the emissions and profiting from them, then including them in the total count to artificially decrease final per capita number is just manipulation.

these people living in rural areas will ultimately also want to participate in the booming economy, it is just a matter of time. so it is better to look at trends rather than some number fixed in time. and how does the trend look like?

You should go public with this information

oh don’t worry, it is public information, they teach it in schools.

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dude you’re such a huge asshole.

the other party is such an asshole! they presented facts! how dare they?!?!?!?

you should take deep breath, this mental breakdown can’t be good for you.

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i know. when facts are against you, all you can do is shout loudly while you are leaving. bon voyage.

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How is it appropriate to make comparisons between nations without normalizing for the population?

when you have big part of country that is rural and don’t participate in generating the emissions and profiting from them, then including them in the total count to artificially decrease final per capita number is just manipulation.

but my point here was you carefully selected one graph and presented it without context to support incorrect conclusion. but you know that, right?

Frankly, accusing me of manipulation makes me no longer care what you have to say. You can fuck off.

so you have no rebuttal to graphs i showed you, so you are suddenly not talking to me. that’s understandable, whatever exit strategy works for you, clown…

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well hello there, chinese intelligence officer.

we in the western civilization are usually getting paid for our work and don’t consider that as discreditation of said work. also, the author of the book, is, among others, researcher at Harvard, so he is the literal scientist.

Michael Pillsbury is the director of the Center on Chinese Strategy at the Hudson Institute and has served in presidential administrations from Richard Nixon to Barack Obama. Educated at Stanford and Columbia Universities, he is a former analyst at the RAND Corporation and research fellow at Harvard and has served in senior positions in the Defense Department and on the staff of four U.S. Senate committees. He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and the International Institute for Strategic Studies. He lives in Washington, D.C.

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oh, cool. manipulation by carefully selecting statistisc that will support my theory 😂

first, there is a lot more to “being good/better for the world” than co2 emissions per capita.

with that out of hand, lets look at few others, shall we?

https://ourworldindata.org/co2/country/china

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ok educate me

here, educate yourself: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20696000-the-hundred-year-marathon

Does the argument extend beyond China bad?

when your argument is “china good”, then “china bad” absolutely is valid rebuttal.

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