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CthulhuOnIce

CthulhuOnIce@sh.itjust.works
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it was my main instance literally like 2 weeks until this happened

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does anyone using the “human nature” argument even know what they’re saying?

what about “human nature” or “humans aren’t perfect” undermines socialism or communism? by what mechanism?

it feels like it’s a talking point that means absolutely nothing when viewed critically, and is only mindlessly repeated because it sounds cynical and “smart”

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comment section frustratingly filled with McCarthy-brained liberals who have never critically examined their preconceptions about communism

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yep and just as I thought it’s based on a fundamentally flawed understanding of socialism or communism

Neither system has everybody rewarded the same no matter how hard or little they work

This didn’t even happen in the Soviet union, it’s just theoretically, practically, and historically incorrect to think that’s how socialism works

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I’m pretty sure the people who praise communism understand it better than you do

what makes such a system impossible?

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being from eastern Europe doesn’t automatically make your position on communism any more credible, especially when statistically most of your peers disagree with you

Also it’s really hilarious how you claim that communism is more accessible to westerners than social democracy, like ???

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what about involving corruptible people undermines communism? by what mechanism?

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yeah but like how does that undermine socialism lol, the system is driven by self interest, you get from the system what you put into it

as opposed to capitalism where you just earn whatever your wage is regardless of your actual productivity

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What’s utopian is painting a picture of the minutia of what communist society will look like, that’s what you’re doing now and what every Marxist repudiates

No state, no money, sure, because that’s seen as a resolution of the contradictions in class society and therefore a logical conclusion

No law enforcement? Factories and shops? You’ve made up your own image of communism in your mind and have decided that’s what everybody else thinks, and use your own utopia to discredit scientific socialists

Why would someone living under communism have to educate themselves on communist ideals? People living under capitalism don’t educate themselves on capitalist ideals, they take it completely for granted because that’s the status quo

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