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HelluvaBottomCarter [comrade/them]

HelluvaBottomCarter@hexbear.net
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I started using reddit around 2013-2014. I pretty much immediately gravitated to places like r/top_minds as I still had a bit of the deboonking spirit in me from the early aughts. I also liked the other reddit critique subs. I never got into the podcast when it started, I avoided it. I also avoided the sub. It wasn’t until 2019 that I started actually listening to the podcast. Of course the sub got removed. I was part of a CTH discord that sucked pretty bad and I wanted a new place. Reddit sucked. I heard about chapo.chat about a month after it started.

I stayed because it was a great reddit replacement and I felt way more comfortable posting here than anywhere else. I have gotten to watch the site grow and change. I have changed a bit too.

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You’re not a protractor or compass either.

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I’m here to talk with you about the BRICS initiative.

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I’ve seen toxicity on places like reddit because reddit is a place where you’re not allowed to draw a connection between the state of the world and capitalism. You are allowed to blame it on individuals being too stupid or too poor. I’ve also seen the biggest dunk cultures in the trans and vegan communities here. And you know what? It’s good. Being poor or disenfranchised doesn’t give you license to be a bigot or a murderer. In fact, this is like the vegan struggle session where we were told that veganism for rich white people who make fun of poor indigenous peoples for basic survival.

The toxicity thing doesn’t happen when people correctly draw conclusions that there is an organizational problem with society and while it’s not the fault of individual randos, they sure as shit don’t get to exist in a vacuum at the expense of vulnerable people.

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The battle against Chapo is coming about 8 years too late. The mods in-favor make it sound like the heyday of the Bernie bro. Most people here don’t even listen to Chapo or care about it in any way that shapes their interactions.

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No I was responding to the idea that it causes misanthropy, not you in particular. You were just showing me what the mod said.

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So can you show Hexbear becoming more misanthropic or do you just feel that’s what is happening because it makes you feel misanthropic.

I can laugh at wrong people and still have hope for humanity.

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I think it would go a long way for all the people involved making these decisions to post an actual cogent reason for the moderation. Rule 8 wasn’t exactly clear why it needed to be there. We defined the problem, that people were posting literal whos, but we never heard why that is a problem. I see some small attempts at trying to say it hurts the site in some way, but nobody can describe the harm.

Controversy over Rule 8 turns into a new comm. But now people are mad that the new comm is popular and again, it’s somehow harming the site or leftism or rhetoric.

There only needs to be one comm for this. It’s all the same thing. Mocking Rob Reiner for posting cringe isn’t accomplishing more than mocking pepehitler42069 on reddit. Again, it’s like there is someone with an idea of how all this matters and is important and needs to be changed but can’t articulate why.

Here are my guesses:

  1. Someone wants the comm to be a compilation of the day’s hottest takes but is thwarted by images of pepehitler88 on reddit being cringe. They want to use the comm as twitter news, to see what all the big dogs and they don’t care about the little stuff.
  2. Someone thinks that critiquing twitter posts is some kind of agitprop and not critiquing power (aka people with follower) is ruining praxis. The election of burger king exacerbated this as high-level users saw it as an opportunity to agitate.
  3. Someone hates twitter posts, they hate any post that isn’t super serious leftist literature except for community in-jokes and power users posting pee-pee poo-poo
  4. There’s not much else going on so mods are trying to solve a problem that doesn’t need solving. We’re just keeping busy, trying to find some grievance to salve for our users.
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