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Well congrats on the baby!

I’d like chickens and a garden some day too, but I’ll have to wait until I can manage to buy a house. Sounds great though.

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That actually sounds really sick. I’ve been learning C myself. (Yes, I know it’s a little outdated).

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I’ve been using piped. It’s pretty fast from my (limited) experience. It doesn’t have the ability to comment, but core features like playlist creation exist. There’s also an android app front-end available from f-droid called LibreTube.

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Personally I’m just a hobbiest, I’m not really fluent in anything. I want to hack together a (extremely simple) OS. I’d imagine C++ is close to the effiency of Rust, no?

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Hence, as you want to write a back-end that’s scalable and readable, you’ve chosen rust over C++.

Such an in-depth response!

What’s your opinion of Dave Plummer’s speed test? I was surprized that assembly wasn’t the fastest of his tests. It really says how amazing compiling has become.

This is the Github project: https://github.com/PlummersSoftwareLLC/Primes

This is the video playlist he made based on that project: https://piped.video/playlist?list=PLF2KJ6Gy3cZ5Er-1eF9fN1Hgw_xkoD9V1

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I don’t have any good reason to be interested in performance. That being said, I tend to view inefficient languages- Python and Javascript especially- as “less good.” Granted, python’s ability to be built on top of C libraries is a huge saving grace. Javascript should be replaced by WebASM in IMO. Like you said, the inefficiencies add up as the scale gets larger.

As a disclaimer, I could be swayed to like Javascript. I haven’t been challanged on my view yet.

I’d like to go into embedded programming which is why I’m interested in C and OS dev. Most of the tooling we have (as an internet) is still built for C. I know they’re starting to write parts of the Linux kernel in Rust. How is Rust for that kind of development?

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I’m originally from Utah, and I actually grew up “LDS” (Mormon). My family member’s are still strong believers. I consider myself agnostic now.

That being said, I think that parents should be given the perogative to introduce certain things to their kids.

This is the one book on the list by Judy Blume: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forever…_(novel)

I think it’s reasonable not to have that book in a school library.

I’m completely open to questions or criticisms on my point of view.

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I’m not a parent, so you have that experiance where I don’t. Are there any books, in your opinion, that shouldn’t be in schools?

My parents have extremely strong point of view when it comes to sex: only when you’re married, no porn, etc.

My argument is that it might make sense for a very religious state to protect their children with regards to their beliefs.

I agree with you that high schoolers could probably handle a book like that. But I don’t think it’s as far of an over-reach as your suggesting. A high schooler would have the ability to get it via their own means. (Go to the public library, or get it on kindle)

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I actually really appreciate your comments about motivation, it’s one of the things programmers don’t tend to mention on the web. I definitely see my motivation wax and wain. I have my fantastic dream’s that get the better of me too. I guess we can’t all be a Torvalds. 🤷‍♂️

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Hi! I’d like to budge in here, because while I think that the discourse you’re having is extremely useful, I think you’re missing @Greg@lemmy.ca 's point. I’ve spent a few hours considering your discussion so far, and I have a lot to say about it, so bear with me. If at any point I mischaracterize what has been said, please correct me.

I believe that Greg was arguing for what I’m going to call “moderate-ism.” If that name doesn’t suit you, feel free to change it. The idea he’s trying to convey is complex enough to warrant a name.

As some background, I consider myself agnostic, but I have both religious and atheist friends with strong points-of-view. Your discussion was similar in style to the conversations I’ve had with them. I say this to point out that “moderate-ism” is an idea about how to think about ideas, and is beyond any singular ideology.

I’d like to start by remaking your argument, move onto what the “moderate-ism” idea is, and then how it applies to your situation. Finally I’ll point out where I think the misunderstandings in your conversation were, and how they are similar to other “moderatist” debates that I’ve had.

These are the important points you’ve made: (You made a few others, but I think they were ancillary. I do address some of them later).

“If you “disagree less” with vocal racists who have personal ties with White Nationalist groups… I might have some bad news for you.”

And:

“The problem is, “racism is not as important to me as some other issue” is still a position with its own moral implications.”

As well as:

“[I’m] not saying simply that all Republican voters are racist, [I’m] saying that Trumpism and the surging Christian-Nationalist movement is.”

So, to more accurately convey your point: (and this is where the “correct me” part comes in).

“To vote for Trump requires an inherently flawed point of view; it’s important for us to be moral people. Voting for Trump would support racism. This would be so morally reprehensible that there is nothing with enough significance to out-weigh it. Therefore, do not vote for Trump.”

Note that neither I nor Greg are actually arguing for Trump. We’re arguing for moderate-ism. Assuming that there could be a valid point-of-view is different from believing them.

Lets boil the situation down more: Imagine we have two candidates running for president, but we only know one thing: One is racist; The other is not. The question is: how many valid points-of-view are there that end in voting for the racist? Your statements imply that there are none, but you’re assuming too much. A single point of view is extremely complex, and takes time to digest. If we’re talking about the millions of people who will vote for Trump, and their millions of different points-of-view, you certainly can’t assume most of them are invalid.

To put this in more mathematical terms: Imagine that each point-of-view is a vector. There is a set of point-of-view’s that could be considered valid. We don’t know very much about this set, only that it’s large. Therefore, to assume that this set of valid points-of-view doesn’t contain any which involve voting for Trump, would be to act on knowledge you don’t have.

The idea is more complicated than it seems at first glance. It’s more than just saying “other points-of-view could be valid.” A better simplification would be: Don’t assume that there isn’t a valid point-of-view involving ‘X’ type of belief. In more humanistic terms I’m saying, don’t completely rule out a system of beliefs because there’s a lot you might not understand.

The part of your conversation that reeled me in was when Greg made the following statement: “… Imagine … you were an immigrant from a country that was heavily drone attacked by the US. You might make your voting decisions based on the party that bombed your homeland less.” To which you made an argument as to why that specific statement would be incorrect. Gregg then called this rebuttal a straw-man.

There was a major misunderstanding here. Greg wasn’t actually making that argument. He was simply illustrating that there could be a point-of-view that you haven’t considered; One which is also valid. The difficulty of trying to make the argument in that way, and one that I’ve run into frequently, is that neither he nor I know specifically what that point of view is. If we did, we would believe it, or have disproved it. Rather, we assume that a valid point-of-view may exist; It’s possible we just haven’t come across it yet.

The reason the idea of “moderate-ism” is important, is that it helps a person avoid making broad assumptions about what can and can’t be true. I think this is what Greg meant when he said “Keep an open mind,” and “not everything is black and white.” Moderate-ism also avoids alienating the people in the group you aren’t a part of.

Ultimately most of us want the same things, we just have different idea’s about how to get there; Believing that is called “good faith.” Moderate-ism ties in by helping us work together instead of against each other.

Based on what you’ve already said you may have the following rebuttal:

“[I’m not arguing that their point of view isn’t valid, or that to vote for Trump is inherently wrong. I’m simply saying that] Trump is openly, unapologetically racist and sexist. If you choose to associate with him, you do have to own that.”

Based on the prior discourse, this could be restated: “It’s okay to vote for Trump, if you own that you are a morally reprehensible person.” Most people don’t want to be morally reprehensible. This is effectively making the same argument as I did (for you) above.

(I thought I would have more counter-counter arguments…)

Anyway, I appreciate that you’ve made it this far, and your willingness to discuss your opinions. I’m extremely interested in your thoughts on my “essay”. xD Again, I understand I’m cutting in. Please point out any and all mischaracterizations of your discussion.

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