You know what’s the actual classical move?

Those that stood by and idly watched fascism rise to power blaming those that actually tried to fight it.

Your inaction, your call for inaction, directly facilitated Trumps rise to power. All so that you could virtue-signal over Issues that will get much worse under Trump than Harris. Don’t act like you’re the victim here.

You made your Bed and now you refuse to take responsibility and sleep in it.

jesus fucking christ.

You’re blaming the Democrats for losing, when you yourself obstructed the democrats from winning. You advocated for People not to vote for Kamala, which they did, and now you’re blaming Kamala for losing.

You have absolutely no right to critisize the democrats or whine and bitch about the current situation.

And the Argument about third party voters is a straw argument. Because it’s not about the people you convinced to vote third party, it’s about those you convinced to abstain, to not vote at all

Those made the difference.

Oh sod fucking off.

Trump has openly stated his support, unconditional, for Israel. And yet I am here opposing him, advocating for the candidate that had a more nuanced and reasonable take. Chastising those that let him get elected and let him and Nettanyahu have their way. And now you’re trying to turn this on me?

sod fucking off.

what a stupid argument. You are blaming the Democrats for “failing to protect you” (by failing to win the Election) when YOU YOURSELF were advocating for people to stop supporting them winning the Election.

YOU are the one whose face got eaten by a Leopard. By advocating for people to stop voting for her.

And now you’re trying to make a profit off of it. You plunged the country into fascism (or at least advocated for it) and now you’re trying to play the victim, discredit those that actually tried to stop fascism, and try to profit off the fascist President you yourself helped elect.

Seriously, sod off. Don’t try to blame others for the crimes you committed.

That is your Opinion, and you’re entitled to that.

But all of those that decided not to vote could have stopped the rise of fascism and chose not to.

I don’t blame that on the opposition. I blame that on those accepting its rise and refusing to stop it.

yes. yes, it is. Those that didn’t vote failed to stop fascism from rising.

Even if you think that Democrats are too conservative, the alternative you chose and got is Trump.

Also the phrase goes “stop fascism at all costs” not “stop fascism at all costs except when the alternative has shifted a bit to the right (but in no way as far as the fascists we would be trying to stop) and now is too conservative for you”

The one time you had the chance to actually stop fascism, you decided to not do it.

And now you blame those that tried to?

I really hope you’re happy with Trump. Because you helped elect him.

Regarding point 1:

Sod off. Wasn’t it the socialists who refused to cooperate with the democrats? Didn’t they decide not to vote for the Democrats over i.e. the Palestine issue?

They sabotaged the Democrats. They are also responsible for this, in no small part.

And now they try to wash their hands?

Seriously, what is this bullshit?!

step 1: Help elect fascist president

step 2: blame everyone else for fascist president being elected

step 3: profit

From the “Freedom Road Socialist Organization” you linked to yourself: https://frso.org/statements/the-2024-elections-palestine-and-the-road-ahead/

While it should go without saying that a reactionary racist like Trump does not deserve a vote, Kamala Harris doesn’t either

You actively sabotaged the Democrats. You stopped them from winning. This is actively your fault, don’t act like you didn’t do everything in your power to help elect Trump

I find this whole Israel-Palestine vote-boycott so stupid and irritating.

Did anyone ever think beyond virtue-signaling? What were they hoping, that Trump forgets he wants to stand behind Nettanyahu no matter what?

In order to “boycott” a “fascist President”, they let their own country elect another one. Great, now there are two of them.

Seriously, they want to “stop fascism at all costs”, but when they actually have the chance to stop a fascist from taking office, they refuse.

I have lost all hope for humanity, have a nice day.

So many times I saw people on Lemmy saying they weren’t going to vote because of [insert Reason X]

Everytime I told them they should, I was brushed off with some stupid Argument.

Well, I congratulate everyone who did that. You now live in a country headed by someone openly flirting with fascism. I really hope [Reason X] was worth it. And I really hope [Reason X] won’t get worse under Trump (it will). You failed to prevent a fascist from raising to power just so you could virtue-signal.