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You’re showing some conflict of interest, but come on.

Yup, that’s generally what “in the pocket of the rich” means. It means you have a conflict of interest to rule in favor of the rich because they have given you shit. I sincerely do not understand what part of that you’re hung up on.

He just ruled on roe v wade, show me how he’s in the pockets of the rich for that ruling

Just because somebody is in the pocket of the rich doesn’t mean that every single ruling will have something to do with money. You have an unrealistic expectation here as well.

If you’re looking for rulings that blatantly side with the rich, the citizens united ruling is the place to start.

Here is another good place to start: https://time.com/5793956/supreme-court-loves-rich/

Or anything, come on, you said it, make your point.

See the above links.

You said the system is broken and it’s because you get called a communist by someone online.

No I did not. If you’re going to spend the time to debate you should at least understand what people have said.

So you’re sad because vote isn’t overriding every one elses?

Nope. Never said that either.

I don’t know what you want me to say, to you not getting your way every election

I want you to acknowledge that there is no such thing as a simple solution for these problems. You keep saying “oh, just do X if Y doesn’t work”, but that’s not the reality of the situation, these problems require significant and complicated change.

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doesn’t mean that we should actively go against our foundation of the nation. Sorry weed isn’t legalized, doesn’t mean that we should remove the judicial branch from the government.

Already covered that part:

“I don’t mean to say that legislation should be through the judicial branch”

You can thank the Chevron Deference case for that. Hopefully this SC court rules on that next year.

The supreme court is also in the pockets of the rich though.

Get involved. Vote for better candidates.

I do, and then those candidates typically don’t get very far because they get called communists for daring to say that maybe healthcare shouldn’t be for profit.

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I wouldn’t trust any child to make an adequately informed decision

There are children who spend years of their childhood socially transitioned in some way or another. If they’ve done so, (which is more or less what the medical requirements are), and still after years are ok with their choice to have socially transitioned, and couple that with medical professionals being responsible, I don’t see how there is an issue.

I also suspect the top surgery is more meant for people who are born inter sex, because I know if I was born inter sex, and identified as a man, I would not want to keep having man titties.

who talk about being the opposite sex or about being some other form of LGBTQIA+ when they haven’t even developed sexual attraction yet.

Gender and sexual attraction are two different things. You don’t need to have any sexual attraction to have a gender identity. For instance, an ex of mine was ace, but she was still a woman. And gender identity starts forming as early as age 2:

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/gradeschool/Pages/Gender-Identity-and-Gender-Confusion-In-Children.aspx

Here is a good starting resource that can help break down the differences in these definitions:

https://www.npr.org/2021/06/02/996319297/gender-identity-pronouns-expression-guide-lgbtq

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Gender affirming care for children involves making irreversible decisions that can have long-term physical, psychological, and social consequences.

That’s very misleading:

https://www.childrenshospital.org/programs/center-gender-surgery-program/eligibility-surgery

The only such permanent physical change available is top surgery, only for 15 year olds and up, and only after the following qualifications:

A letter from a medical doctor or nurse practitioner stating that you have “persistent, well documented, gender dysphoria” and specifying either the length of hormone therapy or why you are not taking hormone therapy.

A letter from a mental health provider stating that you have the capacity to consent and that any significant mental health issues are being addressed

Informed consent is a reasonable qualification for medical treatment for a something that is clearly a persistent health issue. And none of this is genital surgery.

As for “permanent psychological and social” change, that’s a weird thing to take issue with given that any decision in your life could have such an effect. Go to the wrong school, choose the wrong job, wrong career, live in the wrong neighborhood, choose the wrong treatment/doctor for your cancer, thyroid issues, broken leg, cronic illness, etc, it all caries that risk. Life sucks and it has risk, it’s unreasonable to expect no risk for anything, especially when it comes to medical stuff.

Lack of long-term research: The field of gender affirming care for children is relatively new, and there is a lack of comprehensive long-term research on the outcomes of these interventions.

That’s a moot point because the research we do have already shows that GAC is the best option for the health of patients. Why is it the best? Because the alternative is suicide. People with gender dysphoria end up killing themselves when they don’t get treatment.

Ethical considerations of irreversible interventions: Gender affirming care for children often involves irreversible medical interventions such as hormone therapy or surgeries

You are exaggerating the permanency of the hormone stuff, it takes a constant source of medication for that stuff. These things aren’t overnight changes either. It takes a long while before anything like puberty blockers or HRT is even allowed, there has to be a long medical history of dysphoria prior to that. And I’ve already covered the misinformation about surgeries above.

Do you know what’s even more permanent than all these things combined? Suicide. If I had a Trans kid I would rather have them alive. That’s a bigger ethical consideration.

Parental rights and autonomy: Decisions regarding a child’s gender affirming care should be primarily left to the parents, as they are responsible for the well-being of their children.

This I can agree with, however:

By allowing a diversity of perspectives and not imposing a single medical consensus

This isn’t right. I would hope you wouldn’t say this about other things.

“Gravity? We shouldn’t impose a single physicist consensus, we should allow a diversity of perspectives”

Science is the best tool we have for learning objectively about things, including medical. It’s a bad move to value it at zero.

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Only after the following, reasonable requirements:

A letter from a medical doctor or nurse practitioner stating that you have “persistent, well documented, gender dysphoria” and specifying either the length of hormone therapy or why you are not taking hormone therapy.

A letter from a mental health provider stating that you have the capacity to consent and that any significant mental health issues are being addressed

Informed consent is the very basis for modern medical decisions. This is a reasonable standard to avoid harm. And this isn’t an overnight thing that you can just get approval for, it takes years to get to this point.

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If a child is under any psychological distress, permanent physical modifications shouldn’t be an option

https://www.childrenshospital.org/programs/center-gender-surgery-program/eligibility-surgery

It isn’t

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there’s a ‘conservatives only’ community that bans anyone they don’t like.

That one actually got removed because the owner got banned. The owner was posting some absolutely crazy shit.

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America should follow the advice/medical consensus of medical professionals to reduce harm to children. And that advice/consensus includes gender affirming care.

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The oil lobby has paid copious amounts of money to propagandize the population, and to bribe republican politicians to continue their policy of laissez-faire.

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