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Stamets@lemmy.world
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None of those things are ‘reinventions’. Those are called story arcs.

Season 1: Had a shuffle of show runners and was the first season of a Trek show. The vast majority of Trek shows don’t find their footing until Season 2 or 3 so I feel like this is a non-issue.

Season 2: ‘Palate-cleansing memberberries’ is not even remotely a fair summary of the season, especially when half of the stuff you’re talking about were barely in the show. Spock doesn’t properly show up until halfway through the season. Moreover, the show takes place 10 years before TOS. NOT including the Enterprise in some capacity and showing off Captain Pike in his prime would have been whined about. It’s also kinda hard to suggest that it’s nostalgia for the sake of nostalgia when Pike was never a large part of TOS or the Star Trek world in general. Una straight up never had a name until Discovery. They brought aboard the least well known Enterprise crew and a broken Spock. Hardly ‘memberberries’.

Season 3: The timejump was planned from Season 1, so no. It wasn’t a reactionary reinvention of the show to what people did or didn’t like. Going home couldn’t have been a serious plot consideration because of the entire arc of Season 2. Also “Burnhams mom is the only character that matters until Season 4”. Right. I guess the whole thing with Saru and his arc (which you literally just mention at the bottom of your post) doesn’t matter. Guess Adira and their arc doesn’t matter. Guess the Trill being set up doesn’t matter. Guess President T’Rina of Nivar doesn’t matter despite her being a major player in the following seasons. You either straight up did not watch the season or you’re misremembering so badly that your summaries here are just not worth anything.

Season 4: Sonequa called it a new start for Burnham. Moreover, what do you expect it to rehash the same shit forever? They’re in a new century and after the ending of the last season it’s a new start for the FEDERATION as well. Once again you’re actively ignoring half of what’s going on in the season to fit your own personal dismissive narrative.

Season 5: When the season was written they did not know it was going to be the last season. And once again you actively prove that you either did not watch the season or barely paid attention. There is a literal time jump in the season showing what would have happened if Moll ‘won’. Burnham saw a timejump where Moll and L’ak won. FedHQ is in utter ruins and the crew is dead. So… no. Really don’t think that would have “worked out better”.

You just spent a message dissing the show and inaccurately summarizing aspects for the sake of insulting it. So…

Overall I liked Disco

P.S. It is hysterical to suggest that DSC was reactionary in any way when every single season pissed people off worse than the last and doubled down on the core tenants and messages.

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Oh thank god. Just waking up and wanted to make sure.

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For real. That ‘epilogue’ at the end enraged me to such an insane degree. I may have broken some ship models by hurling them down the hallway. First time I’ve ever broken something in real life over a TV show or video game but fuck. I’ve never been so invested in a show to be so monumentally let down. Every episode of that season caused me deeper and deeper despair.

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Also I just totally realized that me saying overgrown watermelon could be taken as talking to you because of melon in your name. Wanna make abundantly clear that I was talking about the Progenitors, not you at all. I’m sorry my friend.

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Not exclusively but they’re correlated to some degree. You’ll start on one topic which reminds you of another so you start talking about that one. That reminds you of another so you talk about the next. My roommate always says something when it happens, usually with me opening 14 youtube tabs and pausing videos to start another one.

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But Discovery didn’t reinvent itself over and over? Thats a really strange statement. Season 2 is different than Season 1 but you see the parts from Season 1 that worked. The thread of character development stayed consistent as well.

Just because I didn’t like the final season doesn’t mean that I don’t think the rest of the show was well done.

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I will still defend the Burn arc. I enjoyed all of it, including the ending. But season 5 is… Threshold is better. I’ll at least say it’s better than Code of Honor but that’s not a high bar to clear.

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I’m just so frustrated at the wasted potential and the Enterprise-J sized plotholes

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Honestly? Probably not great but definitely something new. Most people are unaware of what Fuller wanted. A horror anthology series in Star Trek. Literally Star Treks version of American Horror Story. Each season was supposed to follow a different crew aboard a different ship. 1031, the ships registry, is not so coincidentally the month and day of Halloween.

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Still doesn’t explain how you seeded such shit writers to come up with season 5 of discovery, you overgrown watermelon

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