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danciestlobster

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Well if you want anything to get better you need to find common ground with those people and have a united front against facism. Even if you don’t like or agree with them.

The reality is, some people struggled to vote for Kamala, not because she is just as bad (she is obviously not) or because they were paid bad actor agents of the far right, but simply because, despite being the better of two options, she just wasn’t left enough to represent their views.

I’m not saying this is the correct approach or they did the right thing here. But the varying degrees of left constantly arguing with each other creates more and more room for far right fascists to trample us. You don’t have to agree with them, but you do need to organize with them to make any real change.

It’s that, or yell into the Lemmy void ineffectually at people who are closer aligned to you than the actual problem.

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The left endlessly quibbling with each other with definitely not get us there or anywhere. Your beef is with the idiotic trump voters, not people further left than Kamala

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This take is why you keep losing at golf

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Sort of, just parents who made too much money to qualify but didn’t want to financially support me though college.

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Seems judgemental to me. Who are you to say what should and shouldn’t be done??

(/s)

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Idk I mean that sounds ideal but I also think once someone has been a blight for all life on the planet for decades it goes a bit beyond being just “someone I disagree with”. Curious if, in your mind, there is any hypothetical behavior or line to cross after which advocating murder does become acceptable?

Sometimes I also question if he does actually have loved ones or just sycophants and boot lickers but you never know maybe you are right

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That’s true, and a big part of why what is possible for everyone varies. There is some silver lining, chicken is cheaper than beef and significantly lower carbon footprint, some vegan options can be very cheap too if there is time to cook.

But yes, for this who have the ability and inclination to vote with wallets, great, with acceptance for others who don’t have that option

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I totally agree with this notion, everybody should do what they realistically can, and it will look different for everyone. Some can be vegan and it will work out great, others will struggle to give up meat. Some can bike/walk to work everyday, or avoid air travel, and some can’t. Anyone doing well 80% of the time is probably doing just fine.

All that said, it is worth remembering that these industries are (mostly) funded by consumers, and while giant corporations are obviously the way bigger issue, consumers have more power than we often give ourselves credit for to restrict those companies. In a hypothetical world where everyone stops eating beef, it isn’t like the beef industry continues to pollute. They will directly produce the amount of beef people will buy. Even if everyone has their steak now and then but doesn’t make it an every night staple, that alone would already do a lot to limit the emissions of the beef industry. It’s not a whole solution, but it is the one that is easiest and most obtainable, because convincing the government to stop subsidizing beef is not on the agenda of any major politicians at least in the states, even if I wish it were.

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Tyler already failing the first rule then.

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